UBF用 "配婚" 試驗 "忠心"?
據新興教派研究中心李錦彬牧師認為，UBF 要求信徒接受旨婚及一個月內成婚，原因是為試驗那信徒是否徹徹底底的效忠UBF宣教士/牧者，若果一個人連婚姻咁重要既人生大事都肯順服，則表示將來無論什麼事他也會順服，那麼，這個就是 UBF 要尋找的人了，因為他既然人生大事都肯順服，那麼，將來他就可以任由 UBF 操控和擺佈了。
以下是一位 UBF 成員對 UBF 配婚的個人體法，他的非凡之處，是他現在身處在操控性教會中，仍然有高度的批判思巧和分析能力，是叫本人十分驚訝的！他對配婚的看法，有一點是本人實際的經歷，就是 ”一切嚴重/強烈的操控和精神虐待，皆從一個人接受配婚開始” 。
I am now a UBF member, but I don't agree with all their teachings. 其實我發覺一些控制婚姻的事，如下：
1. UBF 配婚跟原教旨摩門教差不多, 如果你聽話, 就給你幾個老婆. 不聽話的, 由得你繼續為自己的婚姻禱告. UBF 用同樣的方法, 就是如果你聽話, 就給你介紹年輕漂亮老婆,否則不管你.
2. 藉口是 ”愛主” , “多禱告”, “建立信心帳棚”. 而要你離開所有朋友, 只剩下 UBF 的人認識你, 令外介的朋友再不跟你熟識, 沒有辦法再關心你。讓你不能跑掉. 一定要跟完全認同UBF教義（上了身）的姐妹結婚。令你更跑不了。
3. 2010 年起碼有兩對 UBF 新人結婚, 但沒有告訴羔羊. 這樣故意的隱瞞, 是很下流的行為. 很多牧者也故意隱瞞這些"計劃婚姻"的細節.
4. 可能你看得出, 一位姊妹牧者根本沒有愛過她的”同工”。她真的放棄了婚姻來 ”撇下一切跟從UBF”. 甚至她服侍上跟她自己的老公有power struggle.
5. AK 宣教士好似離左婚. 但聖經中監督及執事的條件是無可指責（提前三：2；三：10；多一：6）.
6. 信息裏故意跳過妻子應順服丈夫的經文. 既然你要順住聖經來講道, 而且UBF D姐妹咁串, 咁都唔引導下佢地, 真係討厭.
7. 主日信息簡直不知所謂，如下：
”我們當中的 Mother Berry 宣教士身平也與這位馬利亞一樣。她年青時很美麗，也是大財主的女兒，卻一生獨身，興起許多信心的弟兄和姊妹。無論是社會或是 神的工作裏，女子的影響力至大。兒女們受母親的影響比起父親多，然後兒女們長大後成為社會的領袖。過去二十多年，香港 Center 的福音工作也是以姊妹們的獻身和莫大的能力來成就，弟兄們就照姊妹的吩咐做，當香港錫安女子擁有對主火熱的愛獻身時，興起了許多信心的弟兄。”
這是 UBF 2011年10月2日一部崇拜的信息. 勁高舉姊妹的信心，甚至話成間教會的福音工作，都係姊妹”撐住”，而弟兄剩係照姊妹吩咐去做，簡直係當Ｄ弟兄死既，真係荒謬到極，竟然為了高舉姊妹而踩底弟兄！父親對兒女的影響遠遠大於母親, 而佢居然話兒女們受母親的影響比父親多 ? 你知不知道在監獄裏的犯人很多都未見過爸爸呢 ? 未婚懷孕的少女中, 很多都是與爸爸關係不好的多. 男同性戀者中, 沒有多少會與爸爸的關係是好的. 這與 ”女性應該順服, 應該安靜學道” 的教導背道而馳. (待續)
source: http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?t=4894&start=75&sid=5b8624fbbd84211202403dc0110683f9&mforum=liberalhk
2011年12月15日星期四
2011年12月11日星期日
UBF 領袖如何 "配婚”? / How UBF leaders assign “spouse”? (12 Dec 2011)
由於大學生研經宣教會(UBF)會為信徒配婚，藉此操控信徒，而 UBF 的配婚是相當神秘的，因此大家可參考以下兩個網站的資料：
1. UBF 領袖如何 "配婚”?
異端專家 Rick ross 網站發放有關 UBF 領袖 "配婚＂安排
"They use arranged marriage first as a bait for the young students, and then as a way to control the married couple. Usually they marry a less loyal members to a very loyal member (therefore the marriages are often between Koreans and Non-Koreans), so the leader can exert control through the more loyal marriage partner." (source: http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,21702,page=2 )
據 Rick Ross 網站資料，UBF 傾向將一位較較易操控的(較聽從牧者)與另一位相對無咁易操控的(無咁聽從牧者的)二人結合一起，此舉能把他們捆綁在一起，不能離開 UBF，因此若果其中一方想離開 UBF 的話，必遇到另一方(即較易操控的一方)阻止，所以許多信心家庭內，經常發生夫婦之間的衝突，有時這些衝突的發生，是由於宣教士/領袖想利用已受操控的一方，去操控另一方。
另外，由於無咁易受操控的一方，害怕離開 UBF 會導致離婚或婚姻破裂，因此他/她惟有繼續留在 UBF ，無奈地漸漸接受操控， 而UBF也可繼續從二人身上，要求奉獻大量時間或金錢給教會，若有兒女的話，情況可能變得更悲慘，因教會要求信心家庭，為教會事務全然奉獻，需要犧牲家庭兒女（註：UBF 宣教會/領袖會教導牧者，憑信心把家庭兒女交託給神，讓神親自成為他們的父母，而把工作以外的所有時間獻給 UBF，用作出席聚會和服事羔羊）。
在香港，一般有子女的信心家庭，由於父母需要絕對出席所有聚會及靈修營，而所有聚會均不許帶同十二歲以下子女參加，因此，宣教士/牧者會要求作父母的牧者，自費請菲傭來照顧兒女，使作父母的牧者能放工後，時刻服事羔羊和出席聚會。曾有些作父母的牧者，因沒有工人照顧兒女，卻因要絕對出席晚間所有聚會，而經常整晚獨留年幼的子女在家（沒有成年人陪伴），獨自吃晚飯及睡覺，使兒女疏忽照顧，其實這可能導致違法及十分危險的，可能被檢控為虐兒。
網上也有教會領袖操控信心家庭的例子，可參考 http://hkubf.blogspot.com/2011/10/x-x-ying.html 。
How UBF leaders assign “spouse”?
In Rick Ross’s website tells us how UBF leaders arrange merriage partner.
"They use arranged marriage first as a bait for the young students, and then as a way to control the married couple. Usually they marry a less loyal members to a very loyal member (therefore the marriages are often between Koreans and Non-Koreans), so the leader can exert control through the more loyal marriage partner." (source: http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,21702,page=2 )
According to Rick Ross, UBF tends to assign one easier manipulating party to a relatively not-easy-to-manipulating party. When they are bound together, they are more difficult to leave UBF and easier to be manipulated. With such arrangement, if one party wants to leave UBF, his/her spouse will not allow. Therefore, many house church couples have frequent conflicts. Such conflicts occurs when the missionaries/leaders ask one party to control his/her spouse.
Moreover, the not-easy-to-manipulating party will afraid that leaving UBF might lead to divorce or marrige breakdown, so, he/she has to remain in UBF and will be manipulated gradually . UBF can continue to abuse them spiritually. For a family with children, the situation would be worser. Since UBF leaders request shepherds to dedicate totally to church affairs, even sacrifice their family (Note: UBF missionaries/leaders will ask shepherds to sacrifice their children to God by faith and let God himself be the children’s parent. So, after working, they can dedicate all the time to UBF to attend meetings and serve sheep)
In Hong Kong, the general house church’s parents need to attend all meetings and Bible Camps. Their children, aged below 12, are not allowed to appear in the meetings. Therefore, the missionaries/leaders will ask parent shepherds to pay for employing domestic helper to take care their children. So, the parent shepherds are free to attend meetings and serve sheep after working. Once, a pair of parent shepherds, without domestic helper but were requested to attend all meetings, always placed their young children alone at home (without adult accompanied) to have dinner and sleep at night. Under the law of HK, such neglecting children’s behaviour might be illegal and could be very dangerous. They might be charged for child abuse.
There are some examples of how HK UBF leaders control the house church. You may refer to the following website: http://hkubf.blogspot.com/2011/10/x-x-ying.html 。
source: http://ubf1.wordpress.com/2011/12/11/140/
2. 配婚安排：攝理教(JMS)及統一教(UC)/ 與UBF的配婚比較
http://blog.yahoo.com/_SWZIEVWSQ7M527G6DINCXQRKWA/articles/174566
2011年12月7日星期三
a CUHK shepherd was cheated for the marriage arrangement (7 Dec 2011)
A ture story about a CUHK shepherd who was cheated for the marriage arrangement
HKU missionary told lies and sweet words to persuade a CUHK shepherd to marry a sister who came from the mainland China. That sister was older than him about 5 years. The brother accepted by faith because the missionary told him that the Korean Director Shep D Kim and her had prayed for him for a long time. However, that missionary changed the marriage partner for him suddenly. The CUHK shepherd was very shock. However, the missionary told lies and sweet words again. She told him again that the Korean Director Shep D Kim and her had prayed for him for a long time, explaining that the true marriage partner was not the sister from the mainland China, instead was another sister shepherdess in HKUBF (that sister was serving another university at that time). The CUHK shepherd was still cheated by that missionary until today.
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2011年12月4日星期日
UBF 報喜不報憂 (只讚美神，莫視分裂) / Praise God, Ignore Division (4 Dec 2011)
(source: http://www.priestlynation.com/archives/689)
Praise God, Ignore Division
Things that disturb me about UBF: a tendency to rewrite history to be only positive; a tendency to focus on individual and communal praise of God while ignoring the reality of painful divisions and disunity.
A recent report on the history of Asia pioneering is a clear example of what I’m talking about. Here is an excerpt for the positive-only UBF report:
“She offered her five loaves and two fish for HK pioneering mission. As a result, HK UBF has grown rapidly by raising 6 native Sunday messengers and more than 115 Sunday worshipers. Now 5 chapters are having worship service independently and 6 Korean missionaries are co-working together. We thank and praise God for using M. Angela so preciously as a mother of prayer for HK campus souls.” (source)
However, in spite of the rosy picture painted by the UBF report, the reality is very different from their perception. Clearly there has been an ongoing exodus of leaders in Hong Kong UBF. The report also includes glorious-sounding words about India UBF, completely glossing over the exodus of leaders that happened there recently.
The UBF reporter and those who posted the report and those who approved the report all know about the painful reality going on for more than a decade in Hong Kong. Yet the UBF report focuses on the sacrificial life of one missionary and ignores the division completely, just as the majority of UBF leaders continue to ignore any differing opinions regarding their ministry methods and beliefs. I pray that UBF leaders will face the facts and begin to report honestly and factually.
Praise God and ignore division? Serve God and forget about your neighbor? Sacrifice your life and mitigate the mercy of God? I don’t think so. Abraham repented of doing such things, and was blessed for it. We dare not talk about faith and serving God and obeying Christ if we cannot face the facts of our reality. How can I claim to know God if I do not attempt reconciliation, love my neighbor and fall at the mercy of God? We are in danger of becoming mystical fools if we do not face the facts of our situation.
“Without weakening in his faith, he faced the fact that his body was as good as dead–since he was about a hundred years old–and that Sarah’s womb was also dead.”Romans 4:19 (NIV84)
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2011年11月25日星期五
香港 UBF 醫生牧者十二奉獻 - 26 Nov 2011
香港 UBF 醫生牧者十二奉獻
(HK UBF medical shepherds offer two tenths income)
(HK UBF medical shepherds offer two tenths income)
While most churches are in suffer of struggling to serve the poor, according to ECFA, the current net worth of US UBF (HQ) is USD $12,896,882. It is not yet included those of the Korea HQ and all chapters round the world. (note: The total global UBF members are about 10,000.) （source: http://www.ecfa.org/ComparativeFinancialData.aspx?ID=20401&Type=Member）.
According to the website “priestlynation” in US, what will UBF use it for? (http://www.priestlynation.com/archives/446)
1. Airfare of missionaries;
2. Medical expenses of missionaries;
3. Insurance of missionaries;
4. To build magnificent Centre in Korea;
5. Other non-transparent expenditure.
CUHK missionary are very proud of the HK UBF medical shepherds who offers two tenths income, "Three medical doctor shepherds were established. They offer offerings sacrificially offering two tenths of their income. "
source: http://downeyubf.com/2011/01/27/asian-directors-conference-2011/
Once HKU missionary praised HK shepherds publicly, "Even though HK is a small city rather than a country, but HK Centre's offering to US HQ ranks no. 3 among all countries. The amount is even more than the sum of the all chapters in one country." She was so proud of HK shepherds' offerings.
According to the cult expert, these are common means used by the cults. They usually use appreciation, lies or glory to the shepherds so that they continue their crazy offering.
Most UBF missionaries like to quote Mat 6:19-21, “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." to teach sheeps not to buy flats, but to live in manger spirit (actually poor lives.) Even though they are very poor, they still have to offer a lot of money to the church.
Why do the missionaries teach the sheeps not store up their treasures on earth, but they store up a lot of net worth on earth? Why do the missionaries say one thing and do another?
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全球正統教會都因服事貧窮人仕/基層市民，而經常面臨財赤，卻仍爭扎著在不信的人群中，為基督留下美好見證之時，UBF 的財政儲備情況如何呢？根據美國 ECFA 福音教派財務責信組織，單單在美國 UBF (HQ) 總部的財政儲備已到達 USD $12,896,882，仍未計算韓國總部的財政儲備和全球每個 chapter 的財政儲備。（註：全球 UBF 信徒大約只有 10,000 人，但美國總部的儲備卻已維持這數目。)（詳見 http://www.ecfa.org/ComparativeFinancialData.aspx?ID=20401&Type=Member）
根據美國 priestlynation 網站， UBF 奉獻的金錢運用如下 ：(http://www.priestlynation.com/archives/446)
UBF 奉獻的金錢運用：
一）宣教士的機票費；
二）宣教士的醫療費；
三）宣教士的保險費（例如：壞車後 Claim 錢維修）；
四）在韓國興建華麗的 Centre 教會
五）其他在沒有監管制度下的不透明支出
以下是香港 UBF 中大宣教士，今年公開高度表揚 UBF 的醫生牧者 "十二奉獻"的報告部分內容：
”Three medical doctor shepherds were established. They offer offerings sacrificially offering two tenths of their income.” （網址： http://downeyubf.com/2011/01/27/asian-directors-conference-2011/）
其實 UBF 教會中，也有不少人十二奉獻，但中大宣教士特別讚揚醫生牧者的十二奉獻，或許是由於醫生牧者的十二奉獻，數額較高吧！！
港大宣教士也曾公開表揚香港牧者，說香港中心給美國總部(HQ)的奉獻金額，是全球所有國家中排行第三，她指香港只不過是一個城市，而非國家，但奉獻金額竟然高於一些國家奉獻的總和，並引以為榮。
據 新興教派研究中心異端專家李錦彬牧師稱，這是韓國異端常用的一種攬財手段，以讚賞方式或謊言，將榮耀歸給奉獻的人，引發他們繼續瘋狂地奉獻，甚至以奉獻的 數額和比例，引發信徒之間的爭競，通常奉獻多的牧者，會有強烈的自豪感，或會被委以重任（例如：成為信息僕人），令他們感到自己的重要性，而他們為了繼續 維持這種被教會重視的感覺（即感到自己的重要性和存在意義），便會持續地作出巨額奉獻，卻不理會或過問所付出的奉獻的用途，卻完全違背聖經對奉獻的真正意 義。奇怪的是，曾有牧者希望奉獻給真正有需要的人，而把十一奉獻捐給慈善機構，卻受 UBF 宣教士/牧者指摘。
UBF 宣教士/牧者常引用經文，教導信徒”不要為自己積儹財寶在地上，地上有蟲子咬，能鏽壞，也有賊挖窟窿來偷。只要積儹財寶在天上，天上沒有蟲子咬，不能鏽壞，也沒有賊挖窟窿來偷。因為你的財寶在那裡，你的心也在那裡。”（太 6:19-21) 又叫Ｄ信徒唔好買樓，要過地上客旅寄居的生活，令到 D 弟兄姊妹為了大量奉獻，而節衣縮食，甚至有高級牧者經常問家人借錢，卻欠債不還，令家人對基督教信仰反感。
2011年11月20日星期日
About us / 關於我們
我們是一群脫離大學生研經宣教會(UBF)的得勝者，當中包括港大、中大及其他大學院校的牧者和弟兄姊妹，我們盼望這網能幫助在受操控底下的 UBF 的弟兄姊妹，可以在基督裏得著自由和救恩，阿們。 歡迎弟兄姊妹提供有關見證，若弟兄姊妹需要有關的支援，可聯絡 ubf.exodus@gmail.com
We are a group of victors who have escaped from UBF's manipulation. Our members include shepherds, brothers and sisters of HKU, CUHK and other universities. We hope this website could help brothers and sisters free from UBF's spiritual abuse. May God bless them to have freedom and salvation in Jesus Christ. Amen. For enquiries, please email ubf.exodus@gmail.com. Welcome to support us with articles, testimonies or information about UBF.
English (7 Dec 2011)
UBF CUHK missionary Kim XX confessed the sin “Lust of the eyes” publicly for about ten years (31 Jul 2012)
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As an ancestor of faith, dose he has “shoulder”? As missionaries, do they have “Pelvic Bone”? (26 May 2012)
Recently, I received the following email and watched the video clips. I found them very enlightening which taught me a good lesson of “Liberal Studies”. I hope to share with you:
As follows (modified slightly):
As an ancestor of faith, dose he has “shoulder”? As missionaries, do they have “Pelvic Bone”?
There are many teacher shepherds in UBF. Some of them are Liberal Studies teacher. Let's take a look at the video below, and have a L.S. lesson.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCXeTCUQWh8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGitYYbLfSg&feature=related
Questions and
Reflections：
1. Did the shepherds (especially ancestor of faith shep. Tang) confuse the
public？
2. In the KimChi Seminar，did the missionaries and ancestor of faith undertake the consequence by themselves?
3. As an ancestor of faith, dose
he has “shoulder”? As missionaries, do they have “Pelvic Bone”?
4. Who has single-handedly
caused the false and misleading speech?
5. Why was
there a Kim family's earthquake after the KimChi seminar？
6. Did the missionaries pass the buck? Did the shepherds need to take
the rap?
7. Did the missionaries use the local shepherds to become their shields?
Source: http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?t=4894&start=105&mforum=liberalhk
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KimChi Talk’s False Speech by UBF shepherds (21 May 2012)
brother_2008 wrote:
” I am a former UBF brother who left UBF a few years ago. When I left, my feelings was almost the same as that of the previous shepherd’s leaving testimony a few months ago. The difference is that at that moment, I was like being isolated and failed to find the right person to share with.”
” I am a former UBF brother who left UBF a few years ago. When I left, my feelings was almost the same as that of the previous shepherd’s leaving testimony a few months ago. The difference is that at that moment, I was like being isolated and failed to find the right person to share with.”
In fact, all exodus of former UBF – Hong Kong
It is said that the incident triggered one fellowship to leave UBF is in the Q&A session of the CUHK’s KimChi Talk. During the Q&A session, several UBF core shepherds were suspected of telling lies, untrue and misleading words publicly. Their behaviors caused some sheep to question about the integrity of the shepherds. They began to believe that UBF is an abusive church and made a decision to leave.
The following are several important cases in CUHK’s KimChi Talk on 11th April, 2012
Case 1 (UBF-Hong Kong’s messenger Shep Tang XX claimed: I am just an ordinary shepherd, I hope that I could promote to a senior shepherd in the future)
During the Q&A session of CUHK’s KimChi Talk, one director class shepherd stood up. Dr. Cheung Teng asked him to introduce which shepherd’s class he belongs to. He kept on smiling and denied that he is a senior shepherd. He claimed that he is just an ordinary shepherd. And he even said that he hopes to promote to a senior shepherd in the future. However, what is the actual position and the real identity of this shepherd? The following content is quoted from UBF’s official web site:
“Shepherd Hayes Tang reported on Hong Kong Mission, and shared his life testimony. He became a born again Christian through one to one Bible study during his school days, and then he became an ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF …”
(source: http://www.ubf.org/content/america-visit-report-moody-park)
(source: http://www.ubf.org/content/america-visit-report-moody-park)
According to UBF’s official web site, Hayes Tang is the ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF (also called “ancestor of faith – Abraham”). In UBF, every University has only one ancestor of faith. The statues of the ancestor of faith in UBF is very high and is highly-honored by missionaries. Shep. Hayes Tang is not only the ancestor of faith of one university, he is even the ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF which is a chapter combined by few universities. However, he claimed himself to be an ordinary shepherd. Obviously, he is suspected of telling lies publicly. Furthermore, he also said that he would like to promote to a senior shepherd. Does he think that being the ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF is not enough? Does he even have a greater ambition to pursue further promotion?
Summary of case 1: As the ancestor of faith of Hong Kong UBF, he was actually giving false speech, leading to the questioning about his integrity. As a faith ancestor and messenger of UBF, he did not set a good example of speaking honestly. Will he bring bad influence of releasing false speech publicly to UBF’s shepherds, brothers and sisters?
Case 2 (Shep. “Wanna Buy House”, sheep of Shep. Tang XX, claimed, “I have freedom to travel and my life in UBF-Hong Kong is very free. If being Shepherds are so busy, I think I have already left UBF.”
(Remarks: Shepherd “Wanna Buy House” once wanted to buy a house but his ideas was rejected and judged by missionary.)
During the KimChi Talk, Shep. “Wanna Buy House” claimed that his life was very free in UBF. He could even go traveling and buy T-shirt, etc. However, his statement was misleading. Since according to the message of Shep. TangXX, “Traveling” is worldly (or an example of the easy-going life). Let’s see below the UBF-HK’s faith ancestor TangXX’s teaching (Message of Chapter III in UBF-HK). In his message, he pointed out “traveling” is a “wide gate”, that leads to destruction:
"But for the wide doors, it is no need to invite others or to send invitation card. Everyday there are people forming teams to enter. They might form teams like “Tour group”, “Food group”, “Shopping group”… to rush into the wide gate. Therefore, although behind the wide gate are “Comfort Station”, “Pleasure Station”, “Vanity station”, ”Crime Station”, but …the terminus is “Perish”…So what is the actual difference between “narrow gate” and “wide gate”? “Wide gate” means “having a free (easy-going) life”. People do not need hard-working or struggling spiritually but they can still enter the wide gate. Behind the wide gate, people can enjoy comfort and lust. Therefore, choosing “wide gate” is a natural practice. On the way of wide road, people can meet many friends and they would not feel lonely.” (source: message of Chapter III, 21/9/2008 7:13
Indeed, Shep. “Wanna Buy House” shared sogam in the message of 2011 HK SBC. He mentioned that his coworker cannot pass the “language benchmark test” for three years, so she was requested to repent.
“…but I work with computer everyday, so I don’t know how to love the others. Last year, my coworker (wife) could neither find any sheep nor any job. She also failed to pass the “language benchmark test” in the past three years. She was not only discouraged, but also looked down by others. Those who did not understand her, just asked her to repent, but did not realize that she was one who also need to be shepherding. I felt her frustration. I encouraged her that God can easily give you a job.” (14/8/2011
Summary of case 2: From the above message and sogam, we can see that shep.Tang XX’s sheep, “Shep. Wanna Buy House”, cannot live freely in the real world as he said. His wife was requested to repent and lacked of being shepherded. If he follows the teaching of TangXX, it is impossible for him to travel. Therefore, his speech was misleading or untrue. It is presumptuous for him to speak such misleading or untrue speech. Is it inherited from TangXX?
Case 3 (A CUHK Shepherdess, Shep. G, claimed, “I was not arranged marriage in UBF”)
During KimChi Talk, Dr Cheung Teng asked if UBF will arrange marriage and asked the UBF shepherds whether they were arranged marriage in UBF or not, and asked them to answer one by one. At that time, all shepherds kept silent, including the faith ancestor shep. TangXX. Nobody answered. However, Shep. G stood up suddenly and took herself as an example. She told that she had a boyfriend before, and later they got married in UBF, instead of being “arranged marriage”. Although she was telling something true, she hided the fact that 90% of the shepherds are arranged married in UBF – Hong Kong. Her marriage is just a rare example in UBF. Although she did not tell lie, such speech is misleading people to think that brothers and sister have freedom to date with someone and choose to marry in UBF-Hong Kong.
Summary of case 3: Shepherdess G took herself as an example, so that people think that not all shepherds are arranged to marry in UBF. However, she did not honestly point out the fact that 90% of the marriages of shepherds are “arranged marriages”. This practice was misleading, confusing the public and resulted of losing her integrity.
The aftermath of KimChi Talk
Recently, a former UBF member shared with me honestly the follows:
Since his shepherd often told him that the speech on web are false, it is difficult for him to distinguish whether they are true or false, as a result, he hesitated and stayed in UBF for a period. However, “KimChi Talk” helped trigger his decision to leave UBF because he personally saw that UBF shepherds was lying, hiding the facts, misleading and confusing the public. The missionaries (as leaders) were hiding behind in the Q&A session of KimChi Talk. These triggered him to question the integrity of the UBF missionaries and shepherds. Finally, he realized that the speech on web is mostly with evident to support. He had reflections after “KimChi Talk” and he finally made decision to leave UBF-Hong Kong. He left UBF because he heard the voice of UBF shepherds (especially those with ancestor class), and that helped trigger his decision to leave UBF.
I believe those shepherds, including Shep. Tang XX, Shep. G and Shep. “Wanna buy house”, are victims indeed. They are kind-hearted. They thought that they could stand out as the shields for the missionaries which caused this exposure of their speech suspected of lying and misleading.
I hope those missionaries, as leaders, do not use the poor local shepherds to become their shields. So that they could be leaders who walk in front of the sheep bravely to face and address the issue of UBF’s manipulation, dictatorship and lies, etc.
“You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.” (John 8:44) This key verse is often used by UBF shepherds for teaching the sheep. Hope that each time when they teach the sheep this key verse, they could also reflect on it.
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Prayer for Hong Kong UBF (13 May 2012)
Posted on 05/12/2012 , 5:53 pm , by briank
Today I received the following email from a former Hong Kong UBF member. With her permission, I share the unedited email. Please pray for our brothers and sisters in Hong Kong UBF who are experiencing painful division. The main reason is the same as in other UBF chapters: a constant demand by leaders for sheep to submit to their authority, in the name of “keeping spiritual order” and honoring the UBF spiritual heritage above human relationships. As I wrote earlier in November 2011, this problem has been ongoing in Hong Kong UBF.
1 Corinthians 12:26-27 “26 If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it. 27 Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.”
On 12.05.2012 00:37, Exodus Ubf wrote:
Dear Brain,
Thank you for your support and encouragement on your blog. I am glad to be your friend too.
We just heard a news that one house church (Shep Paul Liu & Shep Rebekah) and their fellowship members have all left HK UBF last week. Rebekah is the greatest disciple of Msn Angela Kim (other than Shep Maria and her coworker Shep Hayes Tang) and Her fellowship once was the biggest family (around 10-20 members) in HKUBF. Actually Shep. Paul Liu once was the ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF and he is one of the messengers of SWS (Chapter II) in HKUBF. However, Msn Angela Kim suddenly raised up Shep Hayes Tang as the Abraham of Faith to replace his position. Here is his testimony:
“Shepherd Hayes Tang reported on Hong Kong Mission,and shared his life testimony. He became a born again Christian through one to one Bible study during his school days, and then he became an ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF …”
Last week, Shep Rebekah leave UBF together with her fellowship members. We don’t know the details for the cause of their leaving, exactly numbers of exodus and their future plans. However, one brother told us that she might be blamed by Msn Angela Kim. Actually, we know that Shep Rebekah has long been discredited by Msn Angela Kim because she had her own thinking, did not listen to her words and obey her absolutely.
Indeed, it is because Shep Rebekah loves the sheep so much, and she doesn’t want to use the UBF method of dictatorship and manipulation to serve God’s sheep.
We tell her that some pastors who are familiar with the operation of UBF are very willing to have Bible study or counselling supports to them if they need. And we will remember them in our prayer.
Thank you for your continuous concern about UBF – Hong Kong. May God bless you and you family.
In Christ,
HK Exodus
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Why don’t “Watching something missionary” request his/her coworker to do make-up, rather than requesting the bros. & sis.? (11 May 2012)
I remembered
that "Watching something” missionary have also mentioned many times that
if sisters love Jesus, they will be very beautiful and no need to use SK-II
(make-up products). Is "Watching something” missionary implying that the
sisters were not loving Jesus and thus they should use make-up? If this is true,
does Devil Angel and Armor using make-up imply that they do not love Jesus
and they had dark faces?
The coworker
of "Watching something” missionary always blame the others with a dark
face in GBS, why don’t "Watching something” missionary command his/her
coworker to use make-up to make the face bright?
Why doesn’t
"Watching something” missionary give pressure to his/her coworker to serve
more than 20 sheeps, instead of giving pressure to the bros. & sis.? I have
heard that "Watching something” missionary served only 1 sheep for a long
period. So he/she “seized” the sheeps (force others to give sheeps) from
another missionary and other shepherd. The sheeps that he/she has right now,
were seized from the others. For example, Blad Elisha, Prince with faith’s
root. Once “Devil Angel” said that “Watching something” missionary seized
his/her sheep while he/she was serious sick. He/she seemed to be very
tragic while speaking. The “devil angel” said these things behind him. Even
that missionary did not know that he/she was discredited by the others.
Actually, if
"Watching something” missionary had no sheep, he/she should follow his/her
teaching to use make-up, which is betther than seizing the sheeps from the
others. On the other hand, “Devil Angel” always speak ill of the other behind.
This is not right.
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"Watching
something” missionary ignored the health of bros. & sis., and commanded
bros. and sis. to follow the example of "armor" (10 May 2012 )
Posted on: 05-08-2012 9:10 Post subject: Re: On the
freedom of Christians
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ffgh wrote:
Today I read
a sermon of Martin Luther. Although this sermon talks about monk's life,
but is very suit for describing this organization. I get two points as
follows :
(1)
Everyone is obedience to God, received the calling from God, and cannot
be forced by the others.
(2)
cannot because some people can, the others must follow them.
Because everyone is different.
However, this
organization has a lot of things of forcing someone to serve. From the
sermon, this organization cannot make people to live the Christian life.
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Thank you for
sharing! This organization does have this problem: one is forced to serve or
have to serve under peer pressure (others’ eyes). In fact, this problem starts
from the missionaries as the leaders. The following is an example, it happened
in a praying meeting of Bible School
At that time,
“watching something” missionary gave an announcement and said, all the
shepherds should learnt from Armor, because he/she served more than 20 1:1 each
week, and said the news has shocked the Korean brothers and sisters , because
she struggled to serve even he/she did not have time to eat. And then the
missionaries said to all the brothers and sisters, "the Bible School should be like the heaven banquet, do not bring the dark face to the meetings,
if any sister has dark face, she can use make-up to make the face shiny, if you
do not know how to make-up, you can ask armor who always has bright face
because of using make-up."
As shown in
the above example, the missionaries are used to use the mean of
"glorifying someone to give pressure to the others", and these things
are very common. Such as the above example, the missionary gave
“Shock encouragements” to the others through glorifying armor. As a result
making shep without much sheeps very tragic, subject to contempt in the eyes of
others or lower poisition in the church. Of course, the shepherds will
also pass on the pressures to the sheeps, the sheeps will obey to do what the
shepherds request ultimately under such kind of peer pressure.
Q1. “Serving
without eating” is completely ignoring one’s health. Even the
kindergarten will teach the students such common sense of aware one’s health
and to have a balanced diet. However UBF's missionaries are totally ignoring
it. Does the Korean kindergarten not teach about that?
Q2. If those
sisters listened to the words of the missionary to learn armor serve without
eating and fainted on the way, as a result she need to see a doctor by using
her own expense. It brings the loss the money, physical body, and time. So
whose responsibility is it? Is it the responsibility of the missionary?
Q3 Missionary
is not “God”. How can he/she know the motivation of serving of the armor?
Perhaps it is due to competing and jealousy, or the pursuit of the glory
of human? (Note: once the armor are competing with two senior sisters
Shepherds (though one of them went abroad later, while the other is
still in UBF) , and he/she repented the sins of competing with them
through sharing sogam publicly. How can the missionary omit the possibility of
strife and jealousy, or the glory, striving to serve? Indeed serving God with
such motives cannot glorify God.)
Let me
introduce you the following website which allows you to better understand the
actual operation of the global UBF:
The content
is very rich. It analyze this organization from different points of views.
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One more
excellent example of UBF "say one thing and do another" practice (4 May 2012 )
“The
special relationship between Israel
"Through the establishment of boundaries, God protect him and where from the spiritual and physical harm."
(UBF Daily Bread, Lev7:22 -38, 4
/ 5/2012 )
1. UBF believers actually do not want to pay a high cost to participate the International Bible Conference. However, since Shepherd “armor” even without money but borrow money from his/her father to participate it, the other UBF believers subject to great pressure, had to scrimp and save but also to participate by paying their own cost;
2 UBF believers are required to serve a lot from morning to night, and must report to the missionary about the serving and the number, they often afraid of the number of the fellowship members is less than the others, not good enough, or innuendo and criticism by UBF missionary in the message/ DB, they often tied up by fear;
3 UBF believers must obey the arrangement of marriage. They must marry even with a brother who is a few years younger, or a brother who is shorter, or gay or a sister with staunch character, like soldiers, and they must marry within one month.
4. UBF shepherd wants to buy a flat, but he could not.
"Through the establishment of boundaries, God protect him and where from the spiritual and physical harm."
(UBF Daily Bread, Lev
1. UBF believers actually do not want to pay a high cost to participate the International Bible Conference. However, since Shepherd “armor” even without money but borrow money from his/her father to participate it, the other UBF believers subject to great pressure, had to scrimp and save but also to participate by paying their own cost;
2 UBF believers are required to serve a lot from morning to night, and must report to the missionary about the serving and the number, they often afraid of the number of the fellowship members is less than the others, not good enough, or innuendo and criticism by UBF missionary in the message/ DB, they often tied up by fear;
3 UBF believers must obey the arrangement of marriage. They must marry even with a brother who is a few years younger, or a brother who is shorter, or gay or a sister with staunch character, like soldiers, and they must marry within one month.
4. UBF shepherd wants to buy a flat, but he could not.
5. UBF shep. take the
"English benchmark test " many times but fail, some coworkers did not
comfort him/her. Instead, they ask him/her to repent.
6.
UBF shep who has a root of faith is asked to absolute attend the
Sunday worship. As a result, he/she cannot take the Sunday benchmark tests, and
he/she must wait one more year to retake the test;
7. UBF scapegoat sister's son even has a high fever. However, his/her Shepherd forced he/her to absolute attend Bible study. However, afterwards he/she said that this behavior is just the spiritual mother taught spiritual sons and daughters;
8. If UBF believers do not listen the words of the UBF missionaries, he/she will be arranged to study Bible with a “Troubled Senior Shep” at any time.
7. UBF scapegoat sister's son even has a high fever. However, his/her Shepherd forced he/her to absolute attend Bible study. However, afterwards he/she said that this behavior is just the spiritual mother taught spiritual sons and daughters;
8. If UBF believers do not listen the words of the UBF missionaries, he/she will be arranged to study Bible with a “Troubled Senior Shep” at any time.
9
When UBF sheep grow to a period of time, UBF missionaries
would come, and ask you to give the sheep to he/she, to study Bible with
him/her (in fact, they want to get your fruit, i.e. your sheep);
10. UBF missionaries do not need to wash the toilet, but you need to do all, such as vacuuming, mopping, cleaning the toilet, etc.;
11. UBF missionary has salary, but you even fail to get the minimum salary $28 (in HK) for washing toilet;
12. UBF missionaries have the right to criticize you, even publicly accuse you. But if you dissatisfied and complain about them, then you may be discredited or they will pray for your weak faith publicly.
13. UBF missionaries ignore to deal with the church the core issue (for example: control, dictatorship, financial ...), but if you dissatisfacted with these issues, the UBF missionaries will say that these are complains, sins, thankless, etc. And you have to written sogam to repent the sin of thankless.
Q1: Is the life of the UBF believers really like what is said in Daily Bread that they can enjoy great freedom, or they are living in the life of a tyrant slave?
Q2: Why the boundary established by UBF missionaries to UBF believers is obviously violating the Bible teaching, severe beyond the boundaries of it?
Source: http://www.armbell.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4894&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=90&sid=2f22d6e6c4fefe966c377026dbd8b79d&mforum=liberalhk
10. UBF missionaries do not need to wash the toilet, but you need to do all, such as vacuuming, mopping, cleaning the toilet, etc.;
11. UBF missionary has salary, but you even fail to get the minimum salary $28 (in HK) for washing toilet;
12. UBF missionaries have the right to criticize you, even publicly accuse you. But if you dissatisfied and complain about them, then you may be discredited or they will pray for your weak faith publicly.
13. UBF missionaries ignore to deal with the church the core issue (for example: control, dictatorship, financial ...), but if you dissatisfacted with these issues, the UBF missionaries will say that these are complains, sins, thankless, etc. And you have to written sogam to repent the sin of thankless.
Q1: Is the life of the UBF believers really like what is said in Daily Bread that they can enjoy great freedom, or they are living in the life of a tyrant slave?
Q2: Why the boundary established by UBF missionaries to UBF believers is obviously violating the Bible teaching, severe beyond the boundaries of it?
Source: http://www.armbell.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4894&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=90&sid=2f22d6e6c4fefe966c377026dbd8b79d&mforum=liberalhk
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A Corinth
missionary’s sogam - stretched out the hands of kimchi (24 Apr 2012)
Prayer: Please to today's twenty-first century in a civilized city, Hong Kong, manipulation, and the dictatorship of the Jesus people pray, Pray executeth righteousness trial, came to embrace the right of the dictator, so that the oppressed people have with release, re had a free and peaceful life.
Part 1 I have never stretched out my hand
Prayer: Please to today's twenty-first century in a civilized city, Hong Kong, manipulation, and the dictatorship of the Jesus people pray, Pray executeth righteousness trial, came to embrace the right of the dictator, so that the oppressed people have with release, re had a free and peaceful life.
Part 1 I have never stretched out my hand
"Jesus
commanded that we held out his hand in front of everybody, that is, the
gathering of the saints, with a cure for the main confidence, personal shame
sin to the light, so the Lord to heal and clean. For example, through sharing
sogam, we can stretch our right hand out for the Lord to heal. "(From of
UBF III of the worship information, 22/4, Luke 6:1-19)
(1) If held out his hand is so good, whyCorinth
2. Will the servant of the Sunday information, he would only loyalty hand cured? (At work suddenly doing the play and being the boss blame) why has not seen He held out his hand to the Lord to heal. ?
"I ask you, on the Sabbath to do good evil, life-saving lethal, Which is it? ... Jesus, so that the core of the issue is whether to do good and important life-saving, or the observance of the Sabbath does not work important. God joy in everyday life to do good and save lives, said human righteousness and the fear of God in the Bible, such as Job in the Old Testament. how the Jews of the goodness of God, the joy of people to pursue, but on the Sabbath reversed regarded as incorrect, illegal it? black white and white to black. "(From of UBF III of the worship information, 22/4, Luke 6:1-19)
(3) the information of this passage is direct, means that Jesus work on the Sabbath, while the Pharisee law conviction, as in UBF, brothers and sisters in the absence of worship or gatherings because of work, while Pharisee-like missionaries publicly convicted. This scripture is so direct and simple, but why the information servants to be as rotation and complex, I do not know whether he would like furtive want to insinuate the others?
Part II. I'm sorry, I'm not a spiritual parent, but a master cook poisonous kimchi
(1) If held out his hand is so good, why
2. Will the servant of the Sunday information, he would only loyalty hand cured? (At work suddenly doing the play and being the boss blame) why has not seen He held out his hand to the Lord to heal. ?
"I ask you, on the Sabbath to do good evil, life-saving lethal, Which is it? ... Jesus, so that the core of the issue is whether to do good and important life-saving, or the observance of the Sabbath does not work important. God joy in everyday life to do good and save lives, said human righteousness and the fear of God in the Bible, such as Job in the Old Testament. how the Jews of the goodness of God, the joy of people to pursue, but on the Sabbath reversed regarded as incorrect, illegal it? black white and white to black. "(From of UBF III of the worship information, 22/4, Luke 6:1-19)
(3) the information of this passage is direct, means that Jesus work on the Sabbath, while the Pharisee law conviction, as in UBF, brothers and sisters in the absence of worship or gatherings because of work, while Pharisee-like missionaries publicly convicted. This scripture is so direct and simple, but why the information servants to be as rotation and complex, I do not know whether he would like furtive want to insinuate the others?
Part II. I'm sorry, I'm not a spiritual parent, but a master cook poisonous kimchi
"Through
the gospel, Paul became the spiritual father of the Corinthians." (UBF
days taken from the grain, 23/4, II Corinthians 12:11-21)
Corinth missionaries often say that they are spiritual parents, in fact, just a master cook poisonous kimchi paternalistic manipulation and Persian mysticism toxic kimchi, to poison the believers, but Well never refused to recognize and face their own manipulation monopolizes power and authoritarian core issue, but whenever encountered kimchi disaster, exposing sins, it will issue to push in the Corinthian church and believers, but not to confront and deal with the core of the problem, and then called the Corinthians The church and believers to repent.
Part III. Hope you will not learn from me, kimchi magic!
Corinth missionaries often say that they are spiritual parents, in fact, just a master cook poisonous kimchi paternalistic manipulation and Persian mysticism toxic kimchi, to poison the believers, but Well never refused to recognize and face their own manipulation monopolizes power and authoritarian core issue, but whenever encountered kimchi disaster, exposing sins, it will issue to push in the Corinthian church and believers, but not to confront and deal with the core of the problem, and then called the Corinthians The church and believers to repent.
Part III. Hope you will not learn from me, kimchi magic!
"Many of
the problems the church at Corinth
Corinth Missionary most good to spill out the push side, flash, avoid dumping "kimchi magic, while the Corinthian elders to shirk its responsibility to give them long Corinth missionaries so that they encounter problems will be conditioned to the responsibility onto the individual person and the victim, or all the property to a person's sin, thinking that as long as the repentance of some sins, all problems will be solved, so simple-minded to analyze the problem, will not only trapped in the vicious cycle of repeated, but also to the Corinthian believers to bear the fruits of irresponsible, the irresponsible practice passed down, for example: no matter what scandal occurs, they will say: This is just an isolated incident, as long as repentance, all problems will be resolved! They repeated and repeatedly say, a brain seems to be cleaned; they have completed theCorinth University
"Paul ... did not the preacher after the leave, but left to love and serve them." (UBF days taken from the grain, 23/4, II Corinthians 12:11-21)
Paul obviously will leave shortly after in the preacher will not last long stay in a local manipulation of believers, however, Corinth missionaries to stay in Corinth University, refused to leave, just want life to the paternalistic manipulation Corinth believers, but the fine-sounding name, not the preacher after the leave, but left to love and serve them, is really very interesting! !
Corinth
Corinth Missionary most good to spill out the push side, flash, avoid dumping "kimchi magic, while the Corinthian elders to shirk its responsibility to give them long Corinth missionaries so that they encounter problems will be conditioned to the responsibility onto the individual person and the victim, or all the property to a person's sin, thinking that as long as the repentance of some sins, all problems will be solved, so simple-minded to analyze the problem, will not only trapped in the vicious cycle of repeated, but also to the Corinthian believers to bear the fruits of irresponsible, the irresponsible practice passed down, for example: no matter what scandal occurs, they will say: This is just an isolated incident, as long as repentance, all problems will be resolved! They repeated and repeatedly say, a brain seems to be cleaned; they have completed the
"Paul ... did not the preacher after the leave, but left to love and serve them." (UBF days taken from the grain, 23/4, II Corinthians 12:11-21)
Paul obviously will leave shortly after in the preacher will not last long stay in a local manipulation of believers, however, Corinth missionaries to stay in Corinth University, refused to leave, just want life to the paternalistic manipulation Corinth believers, but the fine-sounding name, not the preacher after the leave, but left to love and serve them, is really very interesting! !
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Will UBF’s teaching violate HK’s law?
How UBF leaders assign “spouse”?
The HKU Shepherdess Armor borrowed money from her father to
attend 2008 Purdue SBC
Spiritual Abuse in HK UBF
Arranged Marriage/ Faith based marriage
A ture story: HKU missionary told lies and sweet words to persuade
a CUHK shepherd to marry a sister who came from the mainland China
History of leaders' leaving (including Director, shepherds,
whole fellowships, etc. during the past 10 years)
Evils of missionaries/ leaders
Relationship with Korea
HK UBF medical shepherds
offer two tenths income
Praise God, Ignore Division
(Ignore serious power struggle problems between former HKUBF Director,
HKU missionary, CUHK missionary/ Ignore spiritual abuse by Korean Director
Shep. D. Kim/ Ignore current net worth of UBF, etc.)
UBF Hidden Dogma
Definition of brainwash/ spiritual abuse
Leaving testimonies
Cult seminars
Discussion Forum
Introduction to UBF/ UBF Chronicles
Video
FAQ (Q1 - Q8)
Truth of "Abusive Church"
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HKU missionary also praised HK shepherds publicly, “Even though HK is a small city rather than a country, but HK Centre’s offering to US HQ ranks no. 3 among all countries. The amount is even more than the sum of the all chapters in one country.” She was so proud of HK shepherds’ offerings. However, they ignored the reality that the shepherds are struggling to offer a lot of money to the church and they must live in poor on the earth. Some PhD. shepherds even proud of absolutely attending the Perdue University SBC by borrowing a lot of money from their parents to buy the air-tickets. Many shepherds need to borrow money from the bank in order to give marriage offerings to UBF (One month salary and offering to Director, shepherds, ……) While they praised the offerings of HK shepherds publicly, they ignore the reality that the current net worth of UBF is USD $12,896,882. While the missionaries teach the shepherds not store up their treasures on earth and not allowing them to buy their own flats, they store up a lot of net worth on earth for the missionaries and built magnificent Centres in Korea.