tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-88498785240728588722024-03-12T18:40:06.754-07:00大學生研經宣教會是異端麼?一群脫離大學生研經宣教會 (UBF) 操控 的得勝者http://www.blogger.com/profile/03844186103553776860noreply@blogger.comBlogger111125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8849878524072858872.post-58949449528201282962014-01-09T05:07:00.005-08:002014-01-09T05:08:55.360-08:00UBF資深牧者離開後的成長歷程 (9 Jan 2014)<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; line-height: 22.0pt; mso-pagination: widow-orphan;">
<span style="color: #222222; font-family: 新細明體, serif; line-height: 22pt;">本人是一名曾返了十多年<span lang="EN-US">UBF</span>的資深牧者,回顧過往,希望就享樂宗教、神的引導及喜樂三方面作反省</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: 細明體; line-height: 22pt;">,並願與大家分享,但願 神祝福你們!</span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">(1)</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">對享受和樂趣的反思</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">我感到要重新整理自己對快樂的觀念是很大的痛苦,如果行在兩極的路,即過住修道般的禁欲主意,或過住自我中心的按摩浴宗教,相信信仰的道路會比較易行。過去,我在操控性教派</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">UBF</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">過了十多年修道士般的禁欲主意信仰生活,我和二十多人封閉在一條鄉村,每天上午</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">5:30</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">起床清早禱告,研經,下午去大學傳道,晚上一同查經禱告。自從我從這所操控性教派中逃走出來,我起初感到很難適應社會,神學課程和正統教會生活在重整信仰觀念上,確實幫助了我不少。但實際生活上,我發覺自己仍有一些禁欲主義的色彩,信仰生活過得很沒有自由,例如,當聽到別的基督徒因為到外地旅行而没有出席主日崇拜、聽到弟兄姊妹公開談及買股票和外匯、一起吃晚飯時醉酒、看到孩子們經常玩電腦遊戲等</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">...... </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">雖然我接受這些是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神賜人的恩賜和享受,但我自己直至現在,也不敢在教會提及和談論這些享受和娛樂,過去的經驗令我懷疑談論這些事會令弟兄姊妹在暗中論斷我世俗,而我亦害怕自己會因太多娛樂而節制不住,甚致因沉迷享樂,導致犯罪,或絆倒軟弱的孩子。所以,我享受快樂的程度也很有限。但往後的日子,我希望自己不單成長為自由地享受肉體的快樂,更要操練自己為到享受而生發向</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神的感恩</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">。並操練在享受的樂趣中體會</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神的啟示</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">,希望自己能夠克服懼怕被別人批評議論的恐懼,能與別人、孩子自由分享自己的享受和樂趣,並為此而感恩。此外,過去在操控性教派中,信徒因為太苦悶、封閉和充滿壓力,因此,否定理性和帶強烈感覺的音樂和氣氛往往成為信徒的大麻和可卡因,為信徒短暫舒緩壓力</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">。過去,我也常沉醉在這種音樂環境和氣氛中,並每日數次作重覆及沉長性的禱告,我的理性漸漸被斥毁,當時,我並不覺得自己是在自我中心地操控</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神,反而認為這種音樂氣氛能使我暫時放下世俗壓力和煩擾,以致投入感情和動作去唱詩跳舞敬拜神。如今,我卻認為這是按摩浴宗教的部份特徵,因為,我覺得在音響效果之下,往往導致一個人有較高漲的情緒,長期下去,也容易導致一個人上癮,藉宗教敬拜的高漲情緒來舒緩壓力及逃避面對現實困難。回到正統教會中,主日的詩歌、講道和神學教育等都很理性,令我嘗試不再追求崇拜中透過音樂詩歌引發高漲情緒帶來的感官興奮,及不再追求講員的知識傳遞使我得着滿足,反而透過崇拜安靜地反思、悔改及奉獻自己與</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神相交。這樣崇拜對於患有宗教成癮的我實在是一個新的學習和仍有進步的餘地。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">(2) </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">有關明白</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神旨意的反思</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">提起明白</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神的旨意,過去,我真的感到很焦慮,我受盡領袖的誤導,按他們所受的啟示去被配婚、選擇工作、亦不時以不同的方法去尋求</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神旨意,例如,禁食禱告後,以靈意方法讀解聖經,把現實情境套入經文的情節中,再找出有關</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神旨意的結論</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">,之後,再觀察現實的情況看看作了這個決定後,一切是否順利進行。這類方法令我多次被親人批評為神神化化,而我亦變得越發精神緊張、焦慮和神經質,而且脱離現實。每當遇到現實障礙、困難和失敗時,我就會懷疑自己是否没有遵行</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神的旨意或錯誤理解</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神的旨意而導致如此下塲。而我亦因此錯過很多透過克服現實失敗、困難而去成長和自我改善的機會。例如</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">: </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">今次上神學課,是由於我十多年來,一直有的觀念,認為</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神已呼召我全職事奉衪,所以,我上神學希望事奉</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神。起初,我也有爭扎,因為我需要照顧家庭,經濟亦困難,但每當我決定不上神學時,我就遇上很多不順利的事,例如子女患病、找不到兼職等,因此,基於過去所使用尋求</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神旨意的方法,令我懷疑自己沒有遵行</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神旨意去報讀神學,而導致不良後果,所以我最後在害怕神不喜悅的不安中報了神學課。回想這個過程,我覺得自己往後確實因為讀神學而獲益良多,至少,我現在知道,為何要用</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神賜下的智慧、常識去判斷</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神的旨意而盡量不用靈意、追求神聲音或啟示等方法去尋求</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神旨意。但再回顧當時作的決定,現在的看法有些改變,我不排除</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神曾啟示我去讀神學,但我相信</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神並没有呼召我全職事奉衪,但有引領我報讀神學課程。現在,我認為清心的人比較有清晰的頭腦思維和平常的心境去判斷</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神的旨意</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">。往後的日子,除了按聖經的基本榮神益人等原則外,我會運用智慧和常識理性,基於客觀事實,在大小事上去判斷出正確</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神的旨意</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">,並對宣講獲得</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神啟示的人持懷疑及必須求證的態度</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">,我不再追求得着個人聽見</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神的聲音和啟示之能力,並會對自己所認為聽到的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神的啟示抱着絕對懷疑及求證的態度</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">。至於面對現實的障礙和困難,我不會再認為是因沒有遵行</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神旨意而遇到的,相反,我會運用</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神賜下的恩賜和才幹,去努力克服和面對現實的困難。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">我對喜樂也有一定的操練,坦白說:由於教導人原故,我需要經常講正確的教訓和正確地輔導人,漸漸地,我開始操練正確地思想和處理問題,因此,即使逆境和困難令我有很大的痛苦,但正確和正面的思想常令我不致陷入太大的失落和絕望中。此外,我過去在操控性教派中能夠忍受貧窮、天天傳道查經等的原因,也是因為帶着復活永生的盼望在地上生活,以致能夠輕視時間、物質的棄牲。但自從脱離了操控性教派後,我感到昔日活在封閉和避世的環境中,與人群及傳媒等隔離,我才比較容易喜樂地作基督徒。自從返回正統教會和活在人群中間,我的喜樂指數開始下跌。首先,我在</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">FB</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">重遇許多闊別多年的同學,又在中產的教會結識了許多年幾相若的朋友,看到他們都事業有成,住私樓、子女在外國升學,假期去外國旅行。而我的丈夫亦眼見比自己年輕的同事都有樓有車。不少弟兄姊妹或同事眼見我們是中產,便常問到我們在那裏住、屋企有幾多間房、我做什麽行業</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">....</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">時,我們常會因此而尷尬。我常常認為今日落得如此下塲,成為無車無樓的貧窮中產,原因是在操控性教派中奉獻了十多年的青春,而我亦十多年來,沒有進修、沒有結交朋友,錯過了在年青時間發展事業的黄金機會,在操控下只可以生養衆多肉體和屬靈的兒女,還要大量奉獻金錢。我在返回正統教會和面對競爭激烈、充滿比較的社會時,感覺好像考試不及格一樣,我努力地進修、做工、參與教會主日學導師、作團契小組長等,希望拼命追回失落了的青春,成為正常有樓有車的七十後中產。我不怕辛苦和疲倦忙碌,但我怕忙碌中没有喜樂,事實上,我經常懼怕自己會比人落後,最近樓價上升實在令仍未上車的我更大壓力。另外,雖然在教會參與很多事奉,事奉過程也有喜樂,但有時亦感到負擔和壓力,特別當我看見家人不熱心參與事奉時,我倍感孤獨。藉着這次對喜樂的反思,我明白到自己失去喜樂的原因,一方面因為所面對的中產社會和正統教會的氣氛太過爭競比較,另一方面是我沒有倚靠</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神,把一切憂慮交托</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">。當讀到</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">(</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">珥二</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">25)</span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">的經文時,我得到很大安慰,我一直以為是因過去在無知和受騙中作的錯誤決擇而導致今天的下塲,但這節經文告訴我,縱然過去我曾作了錯誤的決定,返了十多年操控性教派,但我不會因此淪為二等信徒,永不能翻身,因為在約珥書中,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">神能夠且確實給百姓補償了蝗蟲為患的年間所吃掉的收成</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">。今年對我特別具有意義,因為是我首次活在現實社會和當下中,感受到現在的生命是延續到復活永恒的,我願再次帶着復活的盼望過複雜的現實生活。縱然有眼淚,我仍然喜樂,因為上帝之寬恕、永恆之盼望,以及愛我的主所賜下的四個喜樂源頭</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span><span style="color: #222222; font-family: "新細明體","serif";">,使我滿心感恩。而蒙神恩,我最近也成為正常有車有樓的七十後中產,能融入香港中產社會的文化,願榮耀歸給主,阿們。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #222222; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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一群脫離大學生研經宣教會 (UBF) 操控 的得勝者http://www.blogger.com/profile/03844186103553776860noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8849878524072858872.post-26845048342924163742013-02-04T20:56:00.002-08:002013-02-04T20:58:31.757-08:00UBF-Hong Kong (大學生研經宣教會) 之操控性的 PowerPoint 簡介2<br />
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<span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span>一群脫離大學生研經宣教會 (UBF) 操控 的得勝者http://www.blogger.com/profile/03844186103553776860noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8849878524072858872.post-44718282483731211022012-12-26T04:31:00.001-08:002012-12-26T04:31:16.471-08:00恢復你起初的愛心 (26 Dec 2012)<br />
<b>問題摘自 UBF 2012年12月 送舊信息中第4,5題的問題 </b><br />
<b>經文(啟示錄 2:1-17) </b><br />
<b>金句(啟示錄 2:4,5) </b><br />
<b>題目:恢復你起初的愛心 </b><br />
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4.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>雖然以弗所教會有好素質,但是他們如今缺少了甚麼呢(4)?<br />
您認為對耶穌起初的愛心是怎樣的呢? 我們是怎樣在起初愛耶穌的呢(約壹 3:1上,4:9,10)?<br />
我們為何絕對不能失去對耶穌起初的愛心呢(林前 13:1-3;約 21:15上)?<br />
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經文:”你要寫信給以弗所教會的使者,說:那右手拿著七星、在七個金燈臺中間行走的,說:我知道你的行為、勞碌、忍耐,也知道你不能容忍惡人。你也曾試驗那自稱為使徒卻不是使徒的,看出他們是假的來。你也能忍耐,曾為我的名勞苦,並不乏倦。然而有一件事我要責備你,就是你把起初的愛心離棄了。所以,應當回想你是從哪裡墜落的,並要悔改,行起初所行的事。你若不悔改,我就臨到你那裡,把你的燈臺從原處挪去。” (啟2:1-5)<br />
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本人的回答:<br />
一,<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>首先, UBF 並非如以弗所般擁有良好素質,以弗所教會信徒勞碌、忍耐,不能容忍惡人,也能忍耐,曾為主的名勞苦,並不乏倦。因為 UBF 信徒只是在教會操控和所感等的監管制度之下,不得不熱心服事主,否則便會在別人的目光下受論斷或定罪;而且, UBF 信徒的熱心背後,是因為接受了很多錯誤的教導或誤導,例如: UBF 信徒以為這樣的服事,最終能帶給他們永恆的賞賜。<br />
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二,<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>另外,其實 UBF 信徒經常容忍惡人,甚至設立惡人作領袖或宣教士,並缺乏洞察力,無能力分辨是非對錯和異端性的教導。<br />
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三,<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>事實上,香港有很多教會也有好素質,很多教會的信徒在沒有操控和所感等的監管制度下,得到純正的教導,並自發地獻上物質、時間,熱心為主作見證,並不乏倦。因此 UBF 信徒實在不必要把經文中的以弗所教會硬套在 UBF 身上,否則,只是一種自欺欺人、孤芳自賞的造法,令 UBF 信徒錯誤地產生一種比別的教會優越的自豪感。<br />
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5.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>我們如何能夠恢復對耶穌起初的愛心呢(5上;提前 1:13-15)?<br />
我們若不悔改,就有何警戒呢(5下)?<br />
那些持守對耶穌起初愛心的信徒,他們要得著甚麼榮耀的賞賜呢(7)?<br />
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本人的回答:這個問題已經是把 UBF 套入去以弗所教會而問的,所以問題問”我們”,並有我們必須悔改的前設,再次突顯私意解經的又一例子。從這條問題可看見, UBF 的宣教士和領袖根本是不愛自己的百姓,明明要悔改的是設立操控制度的教會領袖,但偏偏為何領袖從不提及領袖要悔改這類的罪惡呢?反而要求在操控制度下無力反抗的羔羊,去悔改一些自己因無能力去改變操控制度,而無奈地犯上失去起初的愛心的罪惡,甚至被領袖引用經文來要求他們要悔改(受定罪)呢!<br />
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另外, UBF 信徒在操控制度和眾人的目光底下,實在難以恢復對耶穌起初的愛心,試想想:為了服事聖誕崇拜和新年營,眾 UBF 牧者也竭力地邀請羔羊出席,但你可曾想過自己究竟是否真的基於對耶穌的愛而去作呢?還是許多時只是因為在別人的目光下,害怕邀請的圖表上沒有貼貼紙(表示有羔羊交了報名費),而害怕地去作邀請的工作。<br />
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結論是:惟有脫離操控和監管制度,方可漸漸恢復一個人對耶穌起初的愛心。<br />
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我們若不悔改,就有何警戒呢(5下)?<br />
i. 其實這段經文是吩咐以弗所教會的信徒悔改,而不是 UBF 信徒要悔改,因此這條問題基本上是出錯;<br />
ii. 假如 UBF 信徒若真的要悔改失去"起初的愛心"的話,他們就必須當機立斷,離開受操控或操控別人的行列,及不正當的解經方法,返回正統的信仰。<br />
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source: <a href="http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?p=26750&mforum=liberalhk#26750">http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?p=26750&mforum=liberalhk#26750</a><br />
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一群脫離大學生研經宣教會 (UBF) 操控 的得勝者http://www.blogger.com/profile/03844186103553776860noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8849878524072858872.post-54695721061897887992012-09-17T03:05:00.003-07:002012-09-25T05:28:55.355-07:00UBF的董事級牧者Hayes Tang,會否也被洗腦呢? (17 Sep 2012)<br />
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1)<span style="font-family: 新細明體;"> 歌頌</span><span lang="EN-US"> Angela Kim </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">宣教士的偉大,把她神性化:</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="color: blue;">Dr. Hayes Tang wrote:
"…God also used M. Angela Kim as the Lydia of UBF Asia pioneering
history...She stopped relying on the pills and threw them away. She declared
with a martyr’s spirit: “If God wants to take my life, I must give my life on
the ground of the </span><st1:place style="color: blue;"><st1:placetype><span lang="EN-US">University</span></st1:placetype><span lang="EN-US"> of </span><st1:placename><span lang="EN-US">H.K.</span></st1:placename></st1:place><span lang="EN-US" style="color: blue;">”. Soon after that, God
healed her like a miracle…We treat her and love her as our mother. She is also
my spiritual mother…”<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
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Hayes Tang<span style="color: black; font-family: 新細明體;">博士在他的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black;"> UBF Hong Kong </span><span style="color: black; font-family: 新細明體;">宣教報告中,首先,他高度表揚韓國的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black;"> Angela Kim</span><span style="color: black; font-family: 新細明體;">宣教士,認為她是開拓亞洲歷史中的呂底亞,然後又把她神性化,認為因著她不依靠藥物、而單單依靠神,為神捨命的信心,而經歷神完全醫治她的神蹟。事實上,患病拒絕按醫生的指示吃藥,反而尋求神蹟,是否正確呢?繼續吃藥又是否等於不依靠神呢?</span><span class="apple-converted-space" style="color: blue;"><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">另外,<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Hayes Tang</span>博士完全無提及<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> Angela Kim</span>的道德操守,例如:她作為教會的領袖,竟然多年沒有公開財政,又沒有發慈善團體收據;另外,報告中無提及她身為單身婦人,卻<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> 15 </span>年以上都是一直與數位男弟兄同住一個帳棚,而不是住在姊妹帳棚。<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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2). Angela Kim <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">宣教士因絕對地傳福音,令不信的丈夫離開她。</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: blue; font-family: Verdana;">Dr. Hayes Tang wrote: “…..While
M. Angela preached the gospel absolutely to H.K. students, her unbelieving
husband left her......”<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">報告中提及<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> Angela Kim </span>因絕對地傳福音,令不信的丈夫離開她,這件事也令人質疑,只單方面聽取<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> Angela Kim </span>的言論,未能客觀了解其丈夫當時的感受和實際離開的原因,另一方面,聖經教導妻子若有美好見證,不信從道理的丈夫也可以因妻子的品行被感化過來,見下:<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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"<span style="font-family: 新細明體;">你們作妻子的要順服自己的丈夫;這樣,若有不信從道理的丈夫,他們雖然不聽道,也可以因妻子的品行被感化過來;這正是因看見你們有貞潔的品行和敬畏的心。</span><span lang="EN-US">" (</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">彼前</span><span lang="EN-US"> 3:1,2)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">假如她在家中的見證是美好的,她的丈夫為何會因她信主而離開她呢?<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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3). <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">歌頌</span><span lang="EN-US"> UBF </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">將會成就的</span><span lang="EN-US">”</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">偉大工作</span><span lang="EN-US">”</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">。</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: blue; font-family: Verdana;">Dr. Hayes Tang wrote: “…Praise
the Lord for using M. Angela Kim so preciously and enabling us to cowork with
her for pioneering the other 4 universities in H.K. and 2300 universities and
colleges in C.…”<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
<span lang="EN-US" style="color: black;"></span><br /><span style="color: black;">Hayes Tang</span><span style="color: black; font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">博士讚揚神使用</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black;"> Angela Kim</span><span style="color: black; font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">及香港的同工們開拓四所香港的大學及</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black;"> 2300</span><span style="color: black; font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">所</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black;"> C. </span><span style="color: black; font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">的大學。但事實上,他是讚揚一些未發生及未必會發生的事,這種讚揚看似十分偉大</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black;">, </span><span style="color: black; font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">可令一個人活在高度幻想性的世界中而十分自豪,認為</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black;"> UBF Hong Kong </span><span style="color: black; font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">真的很偉大,但其實他們連一個</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black;"> C. </span><span style="color: black; font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">的宣教士都無差派過,連一所</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black;"> C. </span><span style="color: black; font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">的大學也沒有開拓過。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black;">Hayes Tang</span><span style="color: black; font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">博士這種不乎事實的讚揚背後,會否達致洗腦效果,誤導人相信</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black;"> UBF Hong Kong </span><span style="color: black; font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">真的很偉大呢?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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4) <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">貶抑其親生父母</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">國民教育其中一個被認為是偏頗的教導,就是:<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">“</span>形容中國共產黨是「進步、無私與團結的執政集團」,又批評西方民主國家政黨輪替是「政黨惡鬥」<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">”</span>,這是一種貶抑異己或排他性的思想,這種手法可能導致人失去批判性思考,盲目地效忠某個組織。<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: blue; font-family: Verdana;">Dr. Hayes Tang wrote: "My
father worked in the tax department of the H.K. government (a “HK<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: red; font-family: Verdana;">tax collector</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: blue; font-family: Verdana;">”) and my mother was an “angry” elementary school teacher (like a strict<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: red; font-family: Verdana;">“tiger mother”</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: blue; font-family: Verdana;">)…I hoped there would be a car accident. Why? It is because
if there was a car accident, I would be sent to the hospital instead of going
home…My childhood was not joyful…"<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">在聖經中,當時的猶太社會裏,稅吏和妓女是公認的罪人,<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Hayes Tang</span>博士竟然公開地稱自己的父親為<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">”</span>稅吏<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">” (Tax Collector)</span>,又稱自己的母親為<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">”</span>虎媽<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">” (Tiger Mother)</span>。<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">作為他的父母,若聽到辛苦養育的兒子,竟然公開負面地批評自己,會有何感受呢?其實,中國文化和聖經的教導十分重視孝道,作為<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF Hong Kong </span>董事級的牧者,今天能成為博士<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">/</span>教授,不但無感激父母養育之恩,反而負面批評父母。正常的基督徒也不會這樣做,這樣的行為比不信的人還不好。<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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"<span style="font-family: 新細明體;">人若不看顧親屬、就是背了真道、比不信的人還不好.不看顧自己家裡的人、更是如此。</span><span lang="EN-US">” (</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">提摩太前書</span><span lang="EN-US"> 5:8)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br />
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5). <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">總結:</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: blue; font-family: Verdana;">Dr. Hayes Tang wrote: “In 2008
God blessed me to enter the HKU PhD program……God gave me a lecturer position at
<st1:place><st1:placename><span lang="EN-US">HKU</span></st1:placename><span lang="EN-US"> </span><st1:placetype><span lang="EN-US">Community College</span></st1:placetype></st1:place><span lang="EN-US">.”<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black;"></span><br /><span style="color: black;">Hayes Tang</span><span style="color: black; font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">博士身為港大的博士</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black;">/</span><span style="color: black; font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">教授,卻在公開場合發表如此的報告,而歌頌的內容也似乎較為偏頗,及缺乏客觀性,例如:他公開歌頌</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black;"> UBF Hong Kong </span><span style="color: black; font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">和</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black;"> Angela Kim</span><span style="color: black; font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">宣教士的同時,卻貶抑自己的父母和童年生活,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black;">Hayes Tang</span><span style="color: black; font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">博士有沒有被洗腦後的特徵呢?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="color: black;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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Reference:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
H.K., A DOOR FOR
EVANGELIZING 1.3 BILLION C. PEOPLE, BY HAYES TANG, H.K. UBF<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
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<span lang="EN-US">source: </span><a href="http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?t=4894&start=120&mforum=liberalhk">http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?t=4894&start=120&mforum=liberalhk</a></div>
一群脫離大學生研經宣教會 (UBF) 操控 的得勝者http://www.blogger.com/profile/03844186103553776860noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8849878524072858872.post-65177686654580656162012-09-17T02:46:00.004-07:002012-09-17T02:49:03.263-07:00UBF 有沒有向大學生灌輸”洗腦”教育呢? (17 Sep 2012)<br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">根據以上短片,不難發現<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>也有一些短片中的洗腦特徵:<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">一,<span style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span>經常公開讚揚<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>成就的偉大工作,和某宣教士何等偉大的犧牲精神等,與此同時又貶低他人,來引入排他性思想。<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">二,不鼓勵發問和批判性思考,例如:<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>宣教士從不解釋他們背誦使徒信經時,為何刪除了<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">”</span>降在陰間<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">”</span>那一句。<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">三,<span style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span>對於信徒究竟可否買樓、去旅行、有否拍拖的自由及信徒應有的道德操守等問題,往往不談論。<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">四,<span style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span>以宣教士和牧者的言論為權威,不鼓勵信徒自行探究事實真相(例如:前<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">HK Director</span>為何離開?宣教士如何為信徒配婚?如何使用財政等等?)<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">五,<span style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span>指鹿為馬,例如<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>常強調配婚、住帳棚、公開認罪是很美好的。</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 新細明體;">source: </span><a href="http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?p=26702&mforum=liberalhk#26701">http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?p=26702&mforum=liberalhk#26701</a></div>
一群脫離大學生研經宣教會 (UBF) 操控 的得勝者http://www.blogger.com/profile/03844186103553776860noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8849878524072858872.post-69630796128540239672012-07-30T18:28:00.001-07:002012-07-30T18:28:17.494-07:00UBF 中大金XX宣教士十多年分享同一個悔改題目 (31 Jul 2012)<br />
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<span style="font-family: 新細明體;">以下是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">中大金</span></u><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">XX</span></u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">宣教士由</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">98</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">年至</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">07</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">年大約十年期間的信息,部分內容是<u>中大金</u></span><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">XX</span></u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">宣教士信息中的所感,你能從中找到相同的悔改題目麼?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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<st1:place w:st="on">I.</st1:place> </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">「我回顧</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">98</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">年和過去</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">5</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">年在宣教之地的生活,有許多的過犯和錯誤。其中被</span><span style="color: red; font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">眼目的情慾</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">打敗,發現自己內心沒有結出聖潔的果子。」</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">但以理書</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">1:1-21, <st1:chsdate day="17" islunardate="False" isrocdate="False" month="1" w:st="on" year="1999">17-1-1999</st1:chsdate>)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
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II. </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">「我服事完今年夏令營之後,很多時不能清早起來,好像老年人一樣過無力的生活</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">……</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">夏令營之後,我在看</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">VCD</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的事上被</span><span style="color: red; font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">眼目情慾</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">打敗,叫我變得無力躺在安逸的槓裏。我本來快要從槓裏起來,不過我再次躺下。」(路加福音</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> 7:11-17</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">24-10-1999</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">)</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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III. </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">「補習社的上課時間也隨意調動。我感到很太平,帶著充裕的時間上網,再次玩已經一年沒有玩的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">ICQ</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">;有一晚我在</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">ICQ</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">跟外邦女子交談直至夜深,卻沒有理會同工,沒有與她交談,令同工很激氣,對我說:「你將電腦當作自己的老婆嗎?」因著我的罪惡,在家庭裏我感受不到平安</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">……</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">我內心仍然感到不安,屬靈上極其窮乏,時常被</span><span style="color: red; font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">眼目和肉身的私慾和渴望</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">折磨。」</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">士師記</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> 6:1-32</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">13-2-2000)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
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IV. </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">「於是我具體上立志不食天糧就不上網,也立志在街邊不望女人,</span><span style="color: red; font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">望女人</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">不超過三秒,藉此維持清潔的心</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">……</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">」</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">但以理書</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> 1:1-21</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">29-1-2006</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">,第I部信息</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
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V. </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">「早上看聖經,好像吃了安眠藥那樣打瞌睡</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">……</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">現實卻感到自己的身和心也越來越沉重。我回看自己為何身心越來越重,便發現自己通過上網用污穢的事物來</span><span style="color: red; font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">滿足自己的渴望</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">,使自己沉重和老化,我卻不願意拋棄以往的習慣,結果身體和靈魂越來越感到疲倦。」</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> (</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">詩篇</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> 103:1-22</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">25-11-2007</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">,第</span><span style="font-family: 細明體;">Ⅰ</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">部信息</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">UBF<u>中大金XX</u>宣教士常強調寫所感是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的優良傳統之一,教導弟兄姊妹要不斷把自己的罪顯露在光明中</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">意思是每星期在眾人面前,公開分享及悔改自己的罪</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">。</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><b><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">問題:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
1. </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">UBF宣教士不斷強調寫所感是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的優良傳統、有甚麼好的屬靈益處,但為何UBF<u>中大</u>宣教士十多年來,卻一次又一次分享自己被眼目的情慾打敗的所感呢?從他的例子可見,寫所感並未能幫助他解決眼目情慾的罪,那麼,寫所感是否真的能夠幫助信徒得勝罪呢?寫所感的意義何在呢?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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2. </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">弟兄姊妹每星期花上大量時間去寫一篇幾千字的所感,如上述UBF<u>中大</u>宣教士多年來不停重覆悔改差不多的內容,但其實是否有功效呢?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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3. UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">宣教士經常向信徒灌輸寫所感的好處,卻從不提及寫所感的壞處和引致的不良後果,這樣教導信徒是否有偏頗呢?信徒在這樣的教導下,會否漸漸失去獨立思考和批判能力,而無法分辨寫所感所產生的問題呢?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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4. </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">UBF<u>中大</u>宣教士多年來分享這類所感,會否叫聽眾聽得多漸漸對眼目情慾的罪麻木,又會否令弟兄因為聽得多<u>中大</u>宣教士如此分享,而受引誘去犯<u>中大</u>宣教士所犯的眼目情慾罪呢?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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5. </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">寫所感會否只是不斷公開悔改自己的罪,然後又再重覆犯同樣的罪,之後,又再公開悔改同樣的罪,然後又再重覆犯同樣的罪呢?當這個過程不斷循環下去時,信徒的罪咎和羞恥感便不斷增加,自我價值亦不斷被否定,令一個人心靈變得軟弱無力和疲乏。這樣看來,寫所感和公開悔改反而令人精神和情緒上受到創傷,靈性也會受破壞。</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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<br /></div>一群脫離大學生研經宣教會 (UBF) 操控 的得勝者http://www.blogger.com/profile/03844186103553776860noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8849878524072858872.post-9735313419321756052012-07-06T16:37:00.000-07:002012-07-08T02:38:12.135-07:00五個被配婚的悲慘愛情故事 (7 Jul 2012)<br />
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個案一:利用丈夫操控異見妻</span></u></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span>根據<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Rick Ross</span>的網站資料,指操控性教派會把較易操控與較多異見的信徒配合為夫婦,並利用較易操控的一方來操控較多異見的一方,最終使較多異見的一方因不想婚姻關係受破壞而被逼徹底屈服於強權。<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span>據聞一名有較多異見的姊妹,因被配婚給一名徹底效忠領袖的弟兄,而多次被那弟兄指責她諸多意見和不肯與領袖同工、服侍,並以離婚和不回家睡覺等來要脅那姊妹<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span>一名弟兄多年來經常公開分享瀏覽情慾資訊既所感<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>佢同佢太太成日鬧交,其實,佢同佢太太成日鬧交是很值得同情的,因為佢太太其實是被某宣教士厭棄,將她嫁走到另一所大學,她自己也知道這點,而她亦因為跟從前服侍的大學不同的服侍方向而常常感到衝突和矛盾<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>但她丈夫卻較易受宣教士和領袖的愛心轟炸和操控<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>以致她和丈夫常常意見分歧<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>她丈夫亦被宣教士和領袖利用來對付她自己<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>她丈夫並曾嚴厲向她說<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>若她不與那宣教士和領袖好好同工<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>他就會與她離婚。<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span>宣教士向高層牧者多次美其名說為他兩人禱告<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>實際上是玩弄手段<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>公開地講他倆人的是非<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>所以高層的牧者都知道他兩夫婦中間所有的事<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>包括她丈夫多次向她提出離婚<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>及指責她為撒馬利亞婦人<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>及去工作的辦公室過夜睡覺,也不回帳棚睡覺<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">;<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>宣教士又公開批評說她同工結了婚還成日上網瀏覽情慾資訊<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>而那宣教士的頭馬又曾在查經中,公開問她是否和丈夫成日係帳棚打架?其實他們兩夫婦的問題<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>是宣教士一手製造出來<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>目的是要利用忠心的他<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>去操控比較多意見的她<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span>即他太太<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">),<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>而不需要宣教士自己動手操控<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>迫使較多意見的一方最終屈服於獨裁<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>有關這類操控的手法<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>已於<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Rick Ross</span>的網站上有大量資料<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">. (</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,21702,page=2" target="_blank"><span style="color: #5493b4; font-family: Verdana; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;">http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,21702,page=2</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">)<br />
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</span><b><u>個案二:頑固姊妹被某牧者公開不肯洞房的秘密</u></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span>一位姊妹被她牧者指為性格頑固<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(stubborn),<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>她被配婚後,又被某牧者公開她結婚初期唔肯同丈夫洞房花燭夜<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>話怕會有<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">BB,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>攪到<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">D</span>高層牧者個個為佢肯洞房花燭夜而代禱,呢D咁私隱既野,點解宣教士和高層會四圍同人講呢?<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span>由於那姊妹有好強的自己意見和立場,絕大部分高層牧者都知,當事人相信只將這些私人的事告訴給所信任的牧者或宣教士,但卻在不知情底下被公開秘密。<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span>根據異端專家<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Steven Hassan,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>所有異端均擅長運用抹黑的技巧<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>但當事人對於自己被抹黑<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>或其他牧者暗中對他的評價<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>是毫不知情的<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">.<br />
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</span><b><u>個案三:禁止信徒發展地下情</u></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span>一位姊妹係未結婚之前,曾經暗地裏與團契裏的一位高大英俊的弟兄,互相通電話、<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Email</span>、彼此有好感,想發展愛情,但結果點呢?她是否可以自由地與自己所愛的人發展愛情呢?當然唔得啦,由於那姊妹分享所感時向牧者顯露了想拍拖的心思,因此那位弟兄立時被佢牧者某宣教士阻止,而另一位宣教士亦向教會高層牧者公開此事,說那姊妹暗地裏與弟兄私下相交,並吩咐教會的高層牧者為那姊妹悔改暗地裏和弟兄相交的心思禱告,藉此利用禱告來向佢施壓和定罪,令佢最終都無得同所愛的人拍拖,她有沒有戀愛的自由呢?<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><b><u>個案四:與同性戀者配婚是大有信心</u></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span>一位姊妹被要求同一位同性戀者配婚,當她順從的時候,教會的高層牧者都稱讚佢有大信心、愛主,但事實呢?那位姊妹過著與丈夫有名無份的婚姻生活,多次在公開的場合為此流淚、分享所感,當佢如何大有信心地接受配婚後才發現真相,但呢個時候宣教士和佢牧者竟然不負責任地叫那姊妹考慮離婚,未知把她配婚給同性戀者,與她曾公開批評她牧者經常遲到,兩者有沒有關係?<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><b><u>個案五:信主後反而與信主女友分手</u></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span>「在夏令營裡孩子蒙了重生,我盼望過討神喜悅聖潔的生活,自己還要偷偷地與女朋友犯情慾的罪到幾時呢?於是決志與女朋友分開,入住帳棚,與其他弟兄過分別為聖的信心生活。當時我面對兩個最親近的女人,要和母親和女朋友分開,都唔知點講好,一定會受到母親嚴厲的逼迫,和女朋友的眼淚攻擊。不過,我握著「在信的人,凡事都能」的信心,立志無論如何都要過討神喜悅的信心生活的時候,神幫助我持守決志,為了持守真理被女朋友罵我自私,又被哥哥和一位傳道人說我的做法,<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span>是「砍腳指避沙蟲」。感謝神保護我從一切的迫逼當中持守決志到底。讓我可以過分別為聖的信心生活,在大學傳福音,照顧羔羊。」<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span>(摘自<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF, 2002</span>港大聖經學校<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>李<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">XX</span>的信息見證)<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span>「我流出為罪哀慟的眼淚,我唔想如同無靈性的豬剛洗完澡乾淨了,轉個頭又在污泥中打滾<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">…</span>我搬進港大弟兄帳棚,在窄小衛生比屋企差的地方,與神的百姓同受苦害,過傳福音的生活。並且我決志要與親密的基督徒女朋友分手,避免犯情慾的罪。結果被她罵我咁自私,往後又給一位傳道人說我這樣的決志是斬腳趾避沙蟲。我感到痛苦,神卻幫助我一步一步治死情慾的肢體,在信心上成長,不用情慾罪惡上<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">loop</span>死。」<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span>摘自<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF, 2007</span>年新年營主題信息<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>希伯來書<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">11:23-28,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span>李<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">XX</span>的信息見證<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">)<br />
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</span>其實,相信傳道人、佢媽媽和哥哥都是出於關心和善意而提點他,但他卻視他們的提點為嚴厲的逼迫、女朋友的眼淚攻擊、一切的逼迫等等,他為何對家人及外界的人有這樣的反應呢?會否由於教會強烈灌輸屬靈屬世二分法觀念,產生教會才屬靈、外面世界、包括未信的家人均屬那惡者,對他們產生敵意,而變得封閉內向呢?<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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1. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">「神是恩典的 神,祂不是要拿取我們的擁有,祂想要的是我們的心。」</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">那麼,為何<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>要求信徒完全獻上自己的人生、家人、朋友、家庭、兒女、同事等,由朝到晚做UBF的工呢?令到部份同工在世上失敗、被上司責備、多年不被續約、甚至失業呢?<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">是否要拿取同工們的擁有,想要的是他們的心,還是他們的金呢?與天糧教訓有否相違背呢?<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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2. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">「 神的恩典並非廉價恩典</span><span lang="EN-US">…</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">」</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">神的恩典並非廉價恩典,但<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>的代價卻是沉重的<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span>犧牲人生、婚姻、大量金錢、正常社交、工作、家人、朋友、理性思考能力、青春、時間等等<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">)</span>,沉重代價的例子:<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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a. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">要與不相熟的人配婚,甚至與丈夫無正常夫婦的關係、鬧離婚等</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
b. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">有同工甚至一方面負面的認為家人是世俗不信的家人,但另一方面卻問他們借錢。</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
c. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">多年不被續約、要找工、找工再找工</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
d. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">被領袖抹黑、打壓、甚至利用架構來奪走羊群,藉此削弱其勢力等</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
e. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">被所愛的羊群倒戈相向、不斷論斷等等</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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3. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">「我們獻上及服侍的動機究竟是甚麼</span><span lang="EN-US">? </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">」</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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UBF<span style="font-family: 新細明體;">要求同工們自我反省獻上及服侍的動機究竟是甚麼,但宣教士、領袖要求人反省的動機又是甚麼呢?是想達致洗腦和操控的目的麼?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">宣教士、領袖服侍的動機又是甚麼?(是要果子麼?為何要搶羊、打壓提出意見的人呢?)<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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4. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">「我們怎樣獻祭予</span> <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">神與我們獻甚麼同樣重要</span><span lang="EN-US">... </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">」</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">獻祭予 神與獻祭予UBF是有分別,UBF為甚麼要人獻祭、點樣使用弟兄姊妹的獻祭同樣重要,<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">為何多年財政不透明,宣教士又借了一筆巨款,未知有沒有向信徒交代過呢?<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">所感:最近發現<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>網站中天糧加了密碼登入,導致其他公眾人仕無法瀏覽他們的天糧、了解<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>如何教導聖經;假如<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>是行在光明中的話,為何不能像一般基督教的教會般,把他們的講章、講道錄音和靈修材料公開呢?<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">一語:為甚麼要人獻祭、獻祭來作甚麼、獻祭後的祭物往了那裡去呢?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="FR" style="font-family: Verdana;">Source: </span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?t=4894&start=120&sid=81cf4dbb3699b8e14ed4b7a985a8910d&mforum=liberalhk"><span lang="FR">http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?t=4894&start=120&sid=81cf4dbb3699b8e14ed4b7a985a8910d&mforum=liberalhk</span></a></span><span lang="FR" style="font-family: Verdana;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>一群脫離大學生研經宣教會 (UBF) 操控 的得勝者http://www.blogger.com/profile/03844186103553776860noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8849878524072858872.post-56036859474663408672012-06-18T22:06:00.000-07:002012-06-18T22:06:17.890-07:00饒恕是否復和?(胡志偉牧師) (19 Jun 2012)<br />
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<span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">柴玲作為一位初信主(二</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">○○</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">九年)基督徒,有善良之心擁抱鄧小平與李鵬,值得肯定,不要責難。作為六四受害者,或任何一位受害者,她有主權有自由原諒任何加害者。然而,柴玲個人式饒恕並不等同關係的復和,兩者仍有分別。</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">特別來自靈恩群體,就是一種不分好歹、不講公義的「認罪悔改、接納和好」模式。這種模式只要在任何族群或事件中找到兩位所謂「代表人物」,於是受害者與加害者只要簡單化地與一律化地表達:「我有虧欠,你也有過失,彼此認罪,和好合一」。<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">「代表式認罪和好」<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">…</span>這種模式的問題乃把責任放在受害者身上,卻放過了加害者,並不是聖經教導的復和之路。人要與上主復和,不只在於受害者(神)主動饒恕我們這群加害者,更要加害者面對真理而知罪悔罪;倘若任何罪人不作任何回轉,也不會達成關係的復和。靈恩式「和好論」不正視權力結構的不對等,例如:六四不能復和,因為受害者驕傲;又例如:發生了性侵犯事件,責任在於受害者不能饒恕。<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">許志超指出:「<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">…</span>但饒恕不等於復和。在饒恕的過程中,受傷害者放棄怨懟和憎恨,不表示他願意或預備與冒犯者和好。雖然饒恕有可能拉近彼此的距離,卻不保證他們能回到先前那種和諧,甚至是親密互信的關係<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">…</span>」<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">全文:</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="http://christiantimes.org.hk/Common/Reader/News/ShowNews.jsp?Nid=73028&Pid=6&Version=0&Cid=150&Charset=big5_hkscs" target="_blank"><span style="color: windowtext; font-family: Verdana;">http://christiantimes.org.hk/Common/Reader/News/ShowNews.jsp?Nid=73028&Pid=6&Version=0&Cid=150&Charset=big5_hkscs</span></a></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">前題:<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>領袖常抹黑離開者為有人際問題、怨恨、愛世界、屬靈上軟弱、患病、權力鬥爭等,特別喜歡強調所有問題都是離開者的問題,絕不是教會或領袖的問題,例如:<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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Angela Kim<span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">宣教士宣講的主日信息指出:「我們間中都有像法利賽人那樣剛硬、批評和攻擊性的反應,這時不是耶穌或者教會的問題,卻是個人內心好像法利賽人一樣不想悔改,於是對 神的說話和工作剛硬、論斷、攻擊和批評的思想。有自己的彌賽亞觀時,就向耶穌和教會講論斷和攻擊性的說話。」(摘自</span><st1:chsdate day="13" islunardate="False" isrocdate="False" month="5" w:st="on" year="2012"><span lang="EN-US">2012</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">年</span><span lang="EN-US">5</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">月</span><span lang="EN-US">13</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">日</span></st1:chsdate><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">,第</span><span lang="EN-US">II</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">部主日崇拜信息,路</span><span lang="EN-US">7:18-50</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">,</span><span lang="EN-US">Angela Kim</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">宣教士宣講)。</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">在這裏,<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Angela Kim</span>宣教士利用私意解經的手法,去影射批評<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>教會和領袖的人,是法利賽人,又暗示不是<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>教會的問題,而是批評教會的法利賽人不肯悔改罪惡,而導致問題。當教會發生問題並有人提出時,<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Angela Kim</span>宣教士會否經常性地向信徒灌輸這樣的信息:「教會和領袖永遠都是沒有問題的,問題只是受害人或提出者不肯悔改而導致。」從而把責任放在受害者身上,卻放過自己和<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>獨裁、操控等問題呢?<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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1. UBF<span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">宣教士和牧者會否認為:「所有問題都是離開者不肯寬恕而產生」,又會否天真地以為:「只要離開者寬恕,所有教會內獨裁、攬權、操控、說謊等問題,都會應刃而解,不再是問題了,因為人人都彼此寬恕了」呢?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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2. <span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">假如宣教士和領袖要求你作不合理的事</span><span lang="EN-US">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">例如</span><span lang="EN-US">:</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">配婚、不發慈善收據等</span><span lang="EN-US">)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">,而當你向他們提出意見,他們慣常</span><span lang="EN-US">
Abusive </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">地回應說:「禱告</span><span lang="EN-US">la!</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">」</span><span lang="EN-US">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">懶屬靈)反而叫你悔改埋怨、論斷等罪惡(如上述主日信息般),你認為這種造法合理麼?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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3. <span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">當你看見有受害人被加害者欺負,而受害人卻被抹黑為有權力鬥爭和愛世界等,而加害人又常只是嘴唇簡單地悔改,卻沒有向受害人作任何補償或承擔犯錯的責任,你會否相信或接受這種</span><span lang="EN-US">”</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">舌頭式悔改</span><span lang="EN-US">”</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">呢?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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4. <span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">若你按事實和公義判斷後,看見加害者的罪惡和詭詐,你會否為公義站起來,不惜付出代價</span><span lang="EN-US">(e.g. </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">被加害者抹黑等</span><span lang="EN-US">)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">,也要站出來替受害者伸冤呢?還是一味地要求受害者寬恕呢?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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5. UBF<span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">的「復和論」與「六四復和論」有何相似呢?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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6. UBF<span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">抹黑離開者有憎恨、不肯寬恕,又主張應是受害者主動寬恕的做法,是否把責任放在受害者身上,卻放過了加害者呢?這種造法又是否聖經教導的復和之路?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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7. UBF<span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">所奉行的模式是否同屬靈恩群體,即一種不分好歹、不講公義的「認罪悔改、接納和好」模式呢?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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8. UBF<span style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">處理衝突和矛盾時,是否一貫造法均是如此:在任何族群或事件中找到兩位所謂「代表人物」,受害者與加害者只要簡單化地與一律化地表達:「我有虧欠,你也有過失,彼此認罪,和好合一」呢?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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<span lang="FR">Source: </span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?t=4894&start=120&mforum=liberalhk"><span lang="FR" style="color: windowtext; mso-ansi-language: FR;">http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?t=4894&start=120&mforum=liberalhk</span></a></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 新細明體;"><br /></span></div>一群脫離大學生研經宣教會 (UBF) 操控 的得勝者http://www.blogger.com/profile/03844186103553776860noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8849878524072858872.post-47343247146117349242012-06-15T18:20:00.001-07:002012-06-22T16:45:58.305-07:00究竟大學生研經宣教會真正的名稱是什麼? (16 Jun 2012)<br />
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<span style="font-family: 新細明體;">看完</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">littlesheep</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">你</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">QUOTE</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的電郵投訴信,我才知道這個網帖裏你真的用了很多不同的名字,原來都是同一個人,之前都不知道添!</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">...</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">也知道你在這裏用不同身份寫野寫到真係</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">...<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">互聯網是個自由討論的世界</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">, </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">當中有來各界不同的人參與</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">, </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">有許多在這討論區參與討論的人</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">, </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">事實上我也不知道是誰。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">雖然</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"> bosophie </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">不認同</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">“</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">很多不同的名字,原來都是同一個人</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">”</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的做法,但偏偏大學生研經宣教會</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">(UBF- Hong Kong) </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">卻不理會</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"> bosophie </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">及一些同工們的立場,堅持在網上不同的平台上用了很多不同的名字,但卻是同一個組織</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">或人</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">) [</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">詳見下</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">]</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">,這樣的行為其實莫視一些在</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">裏較不喜歡不誠實的同工們的立場</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">(e.g. bosophie,
Graceleung, eloihk, etc. )</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">,令不贊成用很多教會名字的弟兄姊妹,也迫不得意地參與教會不太誠實的做法,大學生研經宣教會在網上不同平台之名稱如下:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">一,公司註冊處註冊之名稱</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">英文</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">UNIVERSITY BIBLE FELLOWSHIP (HONG KONG CENTRE) LIMITED<br />
</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">二,公司註冊處註冊之名稱</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">中文</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">:大學生研經宣教會</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">香港中心</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">有限公司</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"><br />
</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">三,主日信息</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"> (</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">英文</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">Hong Kong Centre<br />
</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">四,主日信息</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"> (</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">中文</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">:香港中心</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"><br />
</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">五,香港網站</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">英文</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">University Bible Fellowship - Hong Kong<br />
</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">六,香港網站</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">中文</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">:大學生研經宣教會</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"> - </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">香港</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"><br />
</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">七,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">FB</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">名稱(帳號一)</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">: </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">大學生研經宣教會</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">香港</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">) (UBF - Hong Kong)<br />
</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">八,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">FB</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">名稱(帳號二):</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"> Hongkong Ubf<br />
</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">九,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">FB</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">名稱(帳號三):</span><span style="font-family: Arial;"> </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">大學生研經宣教會</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"> (</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">香港中心</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="font-family: Arial;">) UBF (Hong Kong Centre)</span></span><span lang="EN-US"></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: 新細明體;">十二,<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Twitter: </span>大學生研經宣教會<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">@hkubf<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br />
</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">十三,<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Yahoo blog: </span>大學生研經宣教會<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(UBF)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br />
</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">十四,英文:<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">University Bible Fellowship (UBF)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><o:p></o:p></span><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">難怪連韓國宣教士</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"> C.S. </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">也感到混亂而在</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"> FB </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">裏問道:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">Which is the official facebook
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<span lang="EN-US"><span lang="EN-US" style="color: red; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12pt;">(</span><span style="color: red; font-family: 新細明體; font-size: 12pt;">註:自從此帖子張貼後,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: red; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12pt;">C.S.</span><span style="color: red; font-family: 新細明體; font-size: 12pt;">宣教士的以上留言,已被</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: red; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12pt;">UBF</span><span style="color: red; font-family: 新細明體; font-size: 12pt;">負責網頁的弟兄</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: red; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12pt;"> delete </span><span style="color: red; font-family: 新細明體; font-size: 12pt;">了,此造法有消滅證據之嫌,與李注洋的屍體被匆匆火化,有何相似之處呢?)</span><span style="color: red; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="line-height: 17px;"><br /></span></span>
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">事實上,一般正統教會只有一個官方網頁和一個名稱,是沒有那麼多不同的名稱。那麼,為何堂堂一個註冊慈善機構要用那麼多的名稱呢?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">有專研濫權教會</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">(Abusive Church)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的學者</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">Dr. Ronald Enroth</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">在《</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">Churches That Abuses</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">》一書中指出,異端傾向經常更換名字,尤其當它們的名字被媒體曝光了</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">(these churches tend
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(source:<a href="http://www.probe.org/site/c.fdKEIMNsEoG/b.4227407/k.9467/Abusive_Churches.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color: windowtext;">http://www.probe.org/site/c.fdKEIMNsEoG/b.4227407/k.9467/Abusive_Churches.htm</span></a>)<br />
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Q1. </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">對於那些迫不得意地參與教會不太誠實的做法的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">弟兄姊妹,個人深表同情你們,希望你們也認真思想:是否繼續留在一所有許多名稱的教會內服侍?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"><br />
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Q2. </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">你們又怎樣向羔羊交代</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">有許多名稱的原因呢?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"><br />
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Q3. UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">牧者們會否覺得別人有多個名稱就是不對,並要拒絕對話,但自己教會</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">有許多名稱就無問題呢?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: 新細明體;"><br /></span></div>一群脫離大學生研經宣教會 (UBF) 操控 的得勝者http://www.blogger.com/profile/03844186103553776860noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8849878524072858872.post-88170679903786453412012-06-13T19:14:00.000-07:002012-06-13T19:14:27.738-07:00批評UBF就是褻瀆聖靈麼? (14 Jun 2012)<br />
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</span></span></b><!--[endif]--><b><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">「從前他曾極力主張猶太教的</span></u></b><b><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">…</span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">他前往亞拉伯去</span></u></b><b><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">…</span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">」</span></u></b><b><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> (</span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">摘自</span></u></b><b><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF-Hong Kong <st1:chsdate day="14" islunardate="False" isrocdate="False" month="6" w:st="on" year="2012">14/6/2012</st1:chsdate></span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">天糧,加拉太書</span></u></b><b><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> 1:11-17)</span></u></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">所感:保羅曾經是極力主張猶太教的,那麼</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">門徒又極力主張些甚麼呢?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">門徒極力主張</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的教導和傳統,而排他性甚強,但</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的教導卻帶有強烈受逼害的意識</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">例如:天糧、信息常以大衛被仇敵逼害為焦點去解經</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">,及以負面定罪的角度來看聖經(例如:於<u>金宣教士</u>所主導的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">II</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">部崇拜的主日信息</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> [<st1:chsdate day="6" islunardate="False" isrocdate="False" month="5" w:st="on" year="2012">2012<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;"><span lang="EN-US">年</span></span>5<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;"><span lang="EN-US">月</span></span>6<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;"><span lang="EN-US">日</span></span></st1:chsdate><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: Verdana; mso-hansi-font-family: Verdana;">,路</span>6:36-49] </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">中,經文中</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">”</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">論斷</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">”</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">和</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">”</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">定罪</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">”</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">分別只出現了<u>兩次</u>,然而在</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的信息中,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">”</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">論斷</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">”</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">二字卻出現了<u>二十二次</u>,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> “</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">定罪</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">” </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">或</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> ”</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">定X的罪</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">” </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">卻出現<u>十九次</u>。),最終會損害一個人的精神和情緒,破壞人的理性和批判力。惟有離開</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">,才能漸漸放下</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">所主張的教導和傳統,正面地去看聖經,從作</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">門徒,改變為耶穌的門徒。</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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<b><u>II. </u></b></span><b><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">「也沒有從他們受過教訓。保羅所得的福音,不是從使徒來的</span></u></b><b><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">…</span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">」</span></u></b><b><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> (</span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">摘自</span></u></b><b><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF-Hong Kong 14/6/2012</span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">天糧,加拉太書</span></u></b><b><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> 1:18-24)</span></u></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">所感:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的宣教士、牧者經常強調在</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">裏有何等的救恩工作發生,怎會是異端或操控性教派呢?例子:「神通過約翰成就的悔改工作和耶穌所行救恩的工作,他們全部都排斥。」</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">摘自</span><st1:chsdate day="13" islunardate="False" isrocdate="False" month="5" w:st="on" year="2012"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">2012</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">年</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">5</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">月</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">13</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">日</span></st1:chsdate><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">,第</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">II</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">部主日崇拜信息,路</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">7:18-50</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Angela Kim</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">宣教士宣講</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">信息中暗示批評</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的人是排斥耶穌的法利賽人,而</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">又強調教會有聖靈的工作,而暗示批評</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的行為是否認和褻瀆聖靈。例子:「閣下還能跟我們直接交流,全面地認識我們,有雙向性和深入的交流,了解聖靈在本會中發生的工作。」(摘自</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">在中文大學</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">”</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">泡菜缸裡的烏托邦</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">”</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">之講座時派發的公開信)</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">天糧引用的經文:「</span><span style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">因為我不是從人領受的,也不是人教導我的,乃是從耶穌基督啟示來的。」</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">加</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">1:12)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">正好解釋了,為何異端裡也有人信主得救。但即使有人在異端裏信主得救,也不表示他所返的教會就不是異端。因為人只要通過聖經,就有機會信主得救,而異端</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">特別</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Bible Based Cults)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">由於提供了一個讓人接觸聖經的渠道,因此,也可能有人會在異端通過聖經信主得救。事實上,不少異端運用聖經作為迷惑人的媒介。試問若不以聖經作迷惑人的媒介,又怎能令人信他所說的呢?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">但</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">所教訓的福音,與<u>保羅</u>、<u>彼得</u>和<u>雅各</u>的福音並不是完全一致,以致</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的一些信徒,雖然通過聖經信主得救,但由於繼續接受</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">教導,他們會產生以下有別於<u>保羅</u>、<u>彼得</u>和<u>雅各</u>領受正統福音後的特徵:</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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(1) UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">強調悔改的生活,因此,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">門徒每日會重覆又重覆地如僧人</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">和尚</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">般悔改,可是之後又再重覆又重覆地犯同樣的罪。</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
(2) UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">門徒有很大的改變,就是願意徹底獻身,但他們所傳揚的,卻是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">負面定罪式的教導(正如上述的例子)。</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
(3) UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">門徒繼續說謊、論斷、操控人工作及婚姻、抹黑離開者、罔顧家人及上司感受</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">例如</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">: </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">問家人借錢、不忠誠工作</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">… ) </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">是故意摘擋神的表現。</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
(4) UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">門徒對得救的觀念十分混亂,甚致誤導人認為</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> “</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">自由自在去旅行</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">” </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">會引致滅亡</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">即不得救</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">) </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
(5) UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">所傳的福音教訓,並不適合傳給萬民的,所以,極小</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">門徒的父母親戚或基層長者能夠穩定參加</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的聚會。</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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<b><u>III. </u></b></span><b><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">由於</span></u></b><b><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">領袖常常強調</span></u></b><b><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">當中有聖靈工作(即有人得救重生),間接指凡批評</span></u></b><b><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的人就等於否認及褻瀆聖靈,那麼,何謂褻瀆聖靈呢?</span></u></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">答:</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">弟兄姊妹可先參考以下網站,閱讀香港海外神學院前任院長劉銳光牧師有關</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> ”</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">褻瀆聖靈</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">” </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的教導:</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="http://www.pastorlau.org/pages/question/Q&A106.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: #006699; font-family: Verdana;">http://www.pastorlau.org/pages/question/Q&A106.html</span></a></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">由此可見,褻瀆聖靈是指一個人在接受耶穌為個人救主之時所發生的,若他拒絕聖靈的感動,無動於中,他就無法得救了;又或是一個人拒絕耶穌進入他內心,由於耶穌與聖靈是分不開的,因此否定耶穌,也是否定聖靈了。</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">當有人批評</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的異端性及內在操控、獨裁等問題時,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">領袖就會明辯說</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">當中有聖靈的工作,而暗示別人是在褻瀆聖靈,然而,褻瀆聖靈的意思,是指一個人拒絕聖靈的感動,或是拒絕耶穌作個人救主,而非指人批評異端或操控性教派。</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">那麼,信徒應以怎樣的態度看待異端呢?質疑、批叛異端、異能,不是褻瀆聖靈,因為我們愛耶穌,沒有反對耶穌。我們不願神的道被混亂,我們是在維護聖經。聖經也吩咐人要為真道極力爭辯</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">猶大書</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">3</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">節</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">,也告訴人一切的靈不可都信</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">約壹四:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">1)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">,因此,不算褻瀆聖靈。</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><b><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">結論:</span></u></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
1. UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">喜歡強調自己有聖靈的工作,用作為護自己教派的操控性(註:這不等同於護教)</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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2. UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">領袖由於缺乏神學基礎,常常私意和靈意解經,以負面定罪的角度去解經,令人精神和情緒受損。</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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3. UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">私意解經的用處是甚麼?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">一</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">) </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">令你對</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">更忠心和更積極獻上服事或更多的獻金(例如:馬利亞打破玉瓶獻上香膏;或是我們欠 神的債實在太多、要捐獻給耶路撒冷教會或 神等等),而</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">弟兄姊妹的積極參與,最終助長</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的領袖更能濫權和攬財(註:雖然大部分</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">弟兄姊妹是無辜的,但其實他們的積極間接使更多更多的人受害!例如:破壞一個人的前途、工作等)。</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">二</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">) </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">令你對離開者更厭惡(例如:大衛不斷受仇敵攻擊,但神最終打敗他們),更懼怕離開會受咒詛,但其實此舉進一步抹黑和傷害離開的人,正統教會絕無需要,也不會這樣做。</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">三</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">) </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">以神之名擴張</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的國度。</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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4. </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的確不排除</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">中有人因為能接觸聖經,而有得救的可能。例如:較早前有牧者公開見證自己通過UBF而得救,其實他們被誤導為通過</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">而得救,他們並非通過一個組織而得救,而是通過接觸到聖經,並在聖靈的光照下,讓他們有接受耶穌為個人救主的機會。</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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5. </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">但更令人關注的是,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">帶領一個人入教後,他們往後的人生怎麼樣呢?會否如以下的經文呢?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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“</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">你們這假冒為善的文士和法利賽人有禍了.因為你們走遍洋海陸地、勾引一個人入教.既入了教、卻使他作地獄之子、比你們還加倍。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">”(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">太</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">23:15)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
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UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">金字塔式的獨裁架構提供了一個爭競、貪戀人榮耀、排他、論斷、抹黑、玩弄手段等環境,雖然許多內心單純的牧者帶著良好的動機去服侍,然而</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">領袖早已熟悉</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的架構和如何玩弄手段,例如:擺某某上抬,然後打壓異見者。(註:根據</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">BrianK</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">,一般牧者需要七至十年時間才能意識到教會的問題,但那時已經因宗教成癮而難以自拔了。)</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">可觀看以下</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">youtube (</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">請留意歌詞</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">:</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU44oz1zPEM" target="_blank"><span style="color: #006699; font-family: Verdana;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU44oz1zPEM</span></a></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: 新細明體;"><br /></span></div>一群脫離大學生研經宣教會 (UBF) 操控 的得勝者http://www.blogger.com/profile/03844186103553776860noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8849878524072858872.post-25526908943721408132012-06-08T17:44:00.002-07:002012-06-08T23:00:26.235-07:00Did Devil, Armor Skeleton and Horse Tank use the “Abusive human authority” to achieve their abusive goal and higher position? (9 Jun 2012)<br />
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">The following is the
secret of how Utopia ancestor of </span><st1:city><st1:place><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">Jerusalem</span></st1:place></st1:city><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"> achieve
that position. You require a Utopian ear to hear.<br />
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“Jacob and John came to pray to Jesus, driven by their power desiring
heart…However, the highest glory cannot be obtained by human desire…the
different between abusive human authority and the real spiritual authority
is…become the servant of all”<br />
(Quoted and translated from 17/5/2012 UBF-Hong Kong’s Daily Bread message, Mark
10,32 - 45 )<br />
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“For those who lacks resurrection faith, life is just a power struggle battle.
Until the moment of death, they fight for small thing…”<br />
(Quoted and translated from 23/5/2012 UBF-Hong Kong’s Daily Bread message, Mark
12,13 - 27)<br />
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As we all know, Jerusalem Utopia’s Armor Skeleton is full of fighting spirit.
Recently, she won the battle against Nanny Paula and sat on the throne of chief
disciple. But, what kind of authority she rely on in order to achieve this
throne?<br />
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In fact, Armor Skeleton always serves but her serving intention is driven by
power struggle and human glory. She always said,“ I go to hunt sheep. I fight
with the sin of sheep.” All sheep who once served by Armor Skeleton may know
that she has no serving heart. She fed the sheep with poisonous grass and at
the same time, she discredited Nanny Paula. So, she raised up only few sheep
for many years. However, Nanny Paula is kind-hearted and caring. So, she has
the largest number of flock in </span><st1:city><st1:place><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">Jerusalem</span></st1:place></st1:city><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">.
Therefore, Armor Skeleton began to jealous and has power struggle with her. She
took her as enemy and competed with her publicly.<br />
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At the same time, When Devil saw that Nanny Paula had so many sheep, she felt
that her position and authority began to shake and threaten. Since Devil wants
to heritage the dictatorship and manipulation tradition but Nanny Paula didn’t
want to follow this method to serve sheep. So, Devil used the human authority,
put Armor Skeleton on the spot to against Nanny Paula and suppress the other
sheep. Since Armor Skeleton is very militant and always thought that she is
something. So, Devil can easily spot out her weak point. Then, she used human
glory and power to steal her heart. She replaced Paulus position by the
later-coming Horse Tank and raised Horse Tank to be the Utopia ancestor of </span><st1:city><st1:place><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">Jerusalem</span></st1:place></st1:city><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">. Devil
downgraded Paulus position to become enduring hardship’s class. So, Armor
Skeleton obeys absolutly to her teachings of dictatorship and manipulation. She
always suppresses sheep by the name of fighting with sin of sheep. She pleased
Devil with such kind of absolute obedience.<br />
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What can I say? Devil used Nanny Paula’s kind-hearted properties to bully her.
She requested Nanny Paula to submit sheep to her and Armor Skeleton so as to
weaken Nanny Paula’s power and consolidate her own position and authority. At
the same time, Armor Skeleton gradually thought that she really born lots of
sheep. She always serves for human glory and competition. She began to dispise
Nanny Paula.<br />
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Amour Skeleton is very abusive by relying on the power of Devil. Therefore,
Devil found it difficult to help Armor Skeleton to breed. She is so militant
and thinks herself to be something. So, all the horses found her unbearable in </span><st1:city><st1:place><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">Jerusalem</span></st1:place></st1:city><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">. Devil
noticed a horse, name Horse Tank and chose him to breed with Armor Skeleton.
However, since Armor Skeleton is older than Horse Tank for few years and Horse
Tank had already in love with Rooted Faith’s wife Caroline. However, since
Caroline has aggressive and tough character. Devil doesn’t quite content with
this. So, Devil used human authority to abandon her to another tribe where she
received spiritual abuse from the Persian Witch. Later, she became
psychological disorder and cannot aggressively give order.<br />
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Not only so, since Horse Tank was originally very struggle to breed with
militant Armor Skeleton. So, Devil tested him and said, “ If you agree to breed
with Armor Skeleton, you can sit on the throne of Utopia Director.” So, all
saints in Jerusalem Utopia could see that Horse Tank’s position was rising
after breeding with Armor Skeleton. Although he came to Utopia late, he sat in
the highest position by betraying love and relying on women. At last, he became
Utopia ancestor of </span><st1:city><st1:place><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">Jerusalem</span></st1:place></st1:city><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">.
However, he didn’t satisfy with this. He wanted to promote to Utopia Director.
Most likely, Devil and Watch Something can arrange another power struggle
battle between Horse Tank and another tribe’s Bald Elisha so that they may
fight for the highest position. With such method to force Bald Elisha to sacrifice
his life more. However, since the love bomb of Persian Witch, Bald Elisha
surely cannot easily discover the tricks on him.<br />
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For Devil who lacks resurrection faith, life is just a power struggle battle.
Until the moment of death, she fights for small thing. Although Nanny Paula
served Devil faithfully for many years, Devil, in order to consolidate her
position and power, put Armor Skeleton and Horse Tank on the spot and took
away Nanny Paula’s sheep one by one. At last, Devil got rid of her. Devil really
got a cruelty hand and ruthless heart.<br />
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Although the saints of Jerusalem Utopian think that the highest glory cannot be
received by human desire but received by serving others. However, in Jerusalem
Utopia, obviously, Devil and Watch Something simply use the Utopia hiraechy to
play tricks so as to heritage the abusive and manipulative tradition. Armor
Skeleton fought against enemy to sit on the throne of chief disciple by human
ambition and desire. Horse Tank received the honour of Utopia ancestor of </span><st1:city><st1:place><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">Jerusalem</span></st1:place></st1:city><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"> through
betraying love and relying on women instead of serving others.<br />
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<br />一群脫離大學生研經宣教會 (UBF) 操控 的得勝者http://www.blogger.com/profile/03844186103553776860noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8849878524072858872.post-73027347444953884032012-06-07T17:13:00.000-07:002012-06-07T17:13:56.944-07:00無敵骸骨和馬夫運用那「氣勢凌人的屬人權柄」而上位嗎?(8 Jun 2012)<br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">「雅各和約翰裏面對權力的渴求使他們來求耶穌<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">…</span>只是最高的榮譽不是他們屬人上渴求就可得著<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">…</span>氣勢凌人的屬人權柄與真正屬靈權柄的分別<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">…</span>乃是要服事人」<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> (</span>摘自<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF 17/5/201210</span>天糧<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">, </span>可<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">10:32-45)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">「對沒有復活信仰的他們來說,生命只不過是一場權力鬥爭,直到死的一刻也要爭取到一點東西<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">…</span>」<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> (</span>摘自<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF <st1:chsdate day="23" islunardate="False" isrocdate="False" month="5" w:st="on" year="2012">23/5/2012</st1:chsdate></span>天糧<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">, </span>可<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">12:13-27)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">眾所周知,<u>耶路撒冷</u>教會的<u>無敵骸骨</u>十分好戰,最近他終於成功擊退<u>多國保母</u>,坐穩<u>烏托邦</u>首席門徒之位,但它究竟仗著甚麼權柄而上位呢?<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">其實<u>無敵骸骨</u>常常基於爭競和榮耀去服侍,口裏常說:要出去打獵羔羊,與羔羊爭戰,不過受過<u>無敵骸骨</u>服侍的羊羊都知,他毫無服侍人的心腸,又常常一面餵毒草給羊羊吃,一面抹黑<u>多國保母</u>,所以他長期都無乜羔羊。由於<u>多國保母</u>為人善良,又有愛心,因此有很多羔羊,而<u>無敵骸骨</u>常與<u>多國保母</u>爭競,視他為競爭對手,經常明爭暗鬥。<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">而魔鬼也看見<u>多國保母</u>有很多羔羊,便漸漸感到自己的地位和權力受威脅,因為魔鬼要承傳獨裁、操控等傳統,而<u>多國保母</u>則不願意跟從這種對待羔羊的方式,於是,魔鬼行使它屬人的權柄,將<u>無敵骸骨</u>擺上抬,來對付<u>多國保母</u>及鎮壓其他羔羊,由於魔鬼見到<u>無敵骸骨</u>咁好戰、又成日覺得自己係<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">something</span>,所以它看準了<u>無敵骸骨</u>這弱點,而利用榮耀感和權力來收買牢籠它的心,將它遲來的<u>馬夫</u>替代<u>多國保母</u>之夫的地位,成為<u>烏托邦</u>祖宗,使<u>多國保母</u>之夫降格為該隱的後裔,因此,<u>無敵骸骨</u>絕對依從魔鬼操控、獨裁等的教導,經常以與羔羊的罪爭戰為名,來鎮壓羊群,藉此討好魔鬼。<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">都唔知講乜好;魔鬼又利用<u>多國保母</u>性情良善的特點,迫<u>多國保母</u>交出羔羊給它自己和<u>無敵骸骨</u>服侍,藉此削弱<u>多國保母</u>,及鞏固自己的地位和權力。與此同時,<u>無敵骸骨</u>馬漸漸以為自己真的生養了眾多羔羊,便常常基於爭競、榮耀和權力去服侍,藐視<u>多國保母</u>、不放他在眼內。<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">無敵骸骨</span></u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">由於仗著魔鬼的權勢而恃勢凌人。當魔鬼為<u>無敵骸骨</u>配種時遇上極大困難,因為<u>無敵骸骨</u>十分好戰,又常常覺得自己是<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">something</span>,所以<u>耶路撒冷</u>教會的一般馬匹都頂佢唔順,於是魔鬼便選中了一名<u>馬夫</u>,想為<u>無敵骸骨</u>與<u>馬夫</u>配種,不過由於<u>無敵骸骨</u>年紀比<u>馬夫</u>老幾年,而且<u>馬夫</u>早與<u>有根</u>之妻暗生情絲,但由於<u>有根</u>之妻性格剛烈,魔鬼甚不喜悅、因此、魔鬼便以屬人的權柄把她放逐到另一支派,在那裏受<u>波斯</u>女巫精神虐待、令她精神分裂而無法剛烈。不但如此,由於<u>馬夫</u>起初在與<u>無敵骸骨</u>配種這件事上十分爭扎,於是,魔鬼便試探<u>馬夫</u>,向他說:只要你肯與<u>無敵骸骨</u>配種,你就可以坐上<u>烏托邦</u>邦主之位,所以<u>耶路撒冷</u>教會的眾聖徒不難發現,<u>馬夫</u>自從被配種後地位就扶搖直上,雖然<u>馬夫</u>遲來,卻因為出賣愛情和靠女人而上位,最終成為<u>耶路撒冷烏托邦</u>祖宗,不過,他似乎並未滿足,想升級上<u>烏托邦</u>邦主之位,看來,魔鬼和睇<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">d</span>野又可以攪一場<u>馬夫</u>或某某與禿頭<u>以利沙</u>的爭奪戰,等他們為了上位而鬥過你死我活、自相殘殺,以此手段逼使禿頭<u>以利沙</u>更積極賣命,不過,由於<u>波斯</u>女巫的愛心炸彈,禿頭<u>以利沙</u>未必省覺到自己比人玩緊。<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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一群脫離大學生研經宣教會 (UBF) 操控 的得勝者http://www.blogger.com/profile/03844186103553776860noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8849878524072858872.post-76496339732110542642012-06-03T18:09:00.001-07:002012-06-03T18:09:16.927-07:00Brother_2008 對 「UBF 宣教士否定人自由自在地去旅行」 的回應 (4 Jun 2012)<br />
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<span style="font-family: 新細明體;">關於去旅行的問題,聖經也沒有明說是對還是不對,但從聖經所教導的一些作事原則,信徒卻需要明白,也需自己揣摩。就個人而言,例如在去旅行一事,信徒要考慮的不只是去還是不去,除此以外,也有其他問題需要考慮和思想,例如去哪裡,去作些甚麼,在甚麼時候去,與甚麼人一起去等等,諸如以上問題,終歸都離開不了聖經所教導的原則:對自己是否有益處</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">會否影響到信徒與神的關係</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">,對別人又是否有益處</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">會否絆倒了別人</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">就個人而言,對於買樓置業的問題,也是如此。再者,不買樓置業又是否等同過著客旅寄居的生活呢?<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span>韓國的<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Yonhee Center</span>又是何等的奢華啊。<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">除了去旅行和買樓的問題外,其實還有很多關於信徒日常生活和做各等事情,都是未必直接涉及罪的問題,但<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">U.B.F.</span>個別牧者和宣教士卻以一套屬於自己的屬靈價值觀來警戒信徒,在這等事情上早早定了界線,卻不從其他因素或角度去考慮事情。<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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U.B.F. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">所教導的雖為新約的真理,但實行的卻只有像舊約守律法的模式,只拘泥於地上各等儀文禮節當中。</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">在希伯來書中出自耶利米書的兩段經文:<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
</span><b><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">那前約若沒有瑕疵,就無處尋求後約了。所以主指著他的百姓說:「日子將到,我要與以色列家和猶大家另立新約,不像我拉著他們祖宗的手,領他們出埃及的時候,與他們所立的約。因為他們不恆心守我的約,我也不理他們。」這是主說的。</span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> (</span></b><b><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">希伯來書</span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> 8:7-9)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br />
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</span></b><b><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">主又說:「那些日子以後,我與以色列家所立的約乃是這樣:我要將我的律法放在他們裡面,寫在他們心上;我要作他們的神;他們要作我的子民。他們不用各人教導自己的鄉鄰和自己的弟兄,說:『你該認識主』;因為他們從最小的到至大的,都必認識我。我要寬恕他們的不義,不再記念他們的罪愆。」</span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> (</span></b><b><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">希伯來書</span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> 8:10-12)</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">我們活於新約時期,也是活於恩典之中,主說祂已把律法放在我們裡面,寫在我們心上,神的心意,並信徒應有的思想,行為,生活,還是需要各信徒自行揣摩,尋求明白。<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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UBF<span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的領導者對去旅行和買樓置業等事情有自己的屬靈價值觀或領受是可以的,然而,不要以此為神絕對的心意,並強加於信徒身上。信仰是生命的流露,並不只是一種生活的模式和規條。</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><b><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">神注重我們所是的,過於我們所作的。真實的工作乃是生命的流露。算得數的事奉總是基督的活出。將自己獻給神不是為神作工,乃是讓神作工;凡不能讓神作工的,就不能為神作工。</span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> (-- </span></b><b><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">倪柝聲</span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">)</span><o:p></o:p></b></div>
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一群脫離大學生研經宣教會 (UBF) 操控 的得勝者http://www.blogger.com/profile/03844186103553776860noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8849878524072858872.post-15322553795401797472012-05-27T17:03:00.001-07:002012-05-27T17:03:04.014-07:00UBF 宣教士否定人自由自在地去旅行 (28 May 2012)<br />
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<u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">林XX</span></u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">牧者曾公開在約一百人的場合中<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span>泡菜講座<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">)</span>,聲稱自己在<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>裏能自由自在地去旅行,然而他能自由自在去旅行這一行為,卻在泡菜講座後的數星期,被<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>宣教士所主導的<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> II </span>部崇拜信息中公開被否定,被視為世俗宴樂的荊棘,內容如下:<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">「宴樂的荊棘<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(pleasures)</span>,指著享受人生的內心。這世界有很多享樂,例如自由自在地去旅行<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">…</span>這宴樂的荊棘是人基本的吃喝問題解決以後,有條件活得更好的時候進入人心裏的,引誘人思想如何享受人生,過多姿多采、悠閒的生活,自由自在,不用再勞碌奔波。撒但迷惑跟從耶穌一生而受苦的門徒,叫他們以為享受世界就得幸福。」<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
(<span style="font-family: 新細明體;">摘自</span><st1:chsdate day="20" islunardate="False" isrocdate="False" month="5" w:st="on" year="2012"><span lang="EN-US">20/5/2012</span></st1:chsdate><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="EN-US">II</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">部主日崇拜信息,路</span><span lang="EN-US">8:1-21)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">雖然信息中並無指明是何人自由自在地去旅行,但這教導明顯有意圖去回應泡菜講座有關由自在地去旅行的言論。<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">其實,那位想買樓牧者只是出於一片好心,想在泡菜講座上公開替<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>講好說話去支持宣教士和<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>,才見證自己可以自由自在地去旅行的行為,但他自由自在地去旅行的這行為,並未被<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>宣教士承認和接納為正常的活動,反而被進一步公開否定,被視為世界的享樂、宴樂的荊棘<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(pleasures)</span>等。<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">其實,<u>林XX</u>牧者他想買樓的主張已曾被宣教士公開地否定和反對,如今,他自由自在地去旅行的行為又再度被公開否定。<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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1. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">試想想</span><u>林XX</u>牧者多番聽到自己認為是正常的行為和活動,例如:想買樓、自由自在地去旅行,卻被自己所支持的宣教士公開否定,內心會是何等矛盾呢?究竟他是否應該繼續支持多番否定他行為的宣教士呢?<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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2. </span><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">林XX</span></u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">牧者如此支持和擁戴<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>和宣教士,但換來的卻是他所主張的行為被公開否定,他內心會是何等的受傷呢?會否有一種被出賣的感覺呢?<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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3. </span><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">林XX</span></u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">牧者曾在約一百人面前公開分享自己能自由自在去旅行,但幾星期後,卻被宣教士所主導的信息中指出:自由自在去旅行原來是「世界的享樂」和「宴樂的荊棘」,給<u>林XX</u>牧者當頭棒喝。若宣教士真的愛自己的羔羊,在講信息前,宣教士為何沒有先考慮<u>林XX</u>牧者的感受呢?<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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4. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">究竟</span><span lang="EN-US">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">是否真的准許牧者們自由自在地去旅行呢?而自由自在去旅行為何不被接受為正常活動,反而被指為「世界的享樂」和「宴樂的荊棘」呢?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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5. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">根據以上信息,</span><span lang="EN-US">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">裏跟從耶穌的門徒需要一生受苦和勞碌奔波,連自由自在去旅行的空間也不容許,其實</span><span lang="EN-US">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">這類的生活教導有無問題呢?</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<br /></div>一群脫離大學生研經宣教會 (UBF) 操控 的得勝者http://www.blogger.com/profile/03844186103553776860noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8849878524072858872.post-35442058312250355592012-05-25T17:58:00.000-07:002012-05-26T00:19:22.979-07:00做信心祖宗要有肩膀,做宣教士要有腰骨麼? (26 May 2012)<br />
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<span style="font-family: 新細明體;">最近我收到以下內容的電郵並看過有關的短片,覺得很有啟發性,上了一課不錯的通識,希望能與大家分享:</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><b><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">做信心祖宗要有肩膀,做宣教士要有腰骨麼?</span></u></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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UBF <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">裏有很多牧者都是教師,其中不乏通識科老師,不如大家一齊看看以下短片,上一堂通識:</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">反思問題:<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
1. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">究竟牧者們(特別信心祖宗鄧牧者)有否混餚視聽呢?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
2. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">在泡菜講座這件事上,宣教士</span><span lang="EN-US">/</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">祖宗有沒有一力承擔後果呢?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
3. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">祖宗有沒有肩膀?宣教士又有無腰骨呢?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
4. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">集體混餚視聽的言論,究竟是誰一手造成呢?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
5. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">泡菜講座後,為何內部出現</span><span lang="EN-US">"</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">金生大地震</span><span lang="EN-US">"</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">呢?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
6. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">宣教士有否卸膊呢?牧者們又有否揹鑊呢?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
7. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">宣教士有否利用牧者們作擋箭牌呢?</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">As an </span><em><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">ancestor of
faith, dose he has “shoulder”? As missionaries, do they have “Pelvic Bone”? (26
May 2012)</span></em><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"><o:p></o:p></span></b><br />
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<em><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"> </span></em><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">Recently, I received the
following email and watched the video clips. I found them <em>very enlightening</em> which taught me a
good lesson of “Liberal Studies”. I hope to share with you:<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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follows (modified slightly):<br />
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<b><u><span data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;">As an </span><em>ancestor of faith, dose he
has “shoulder”? As missionaries, do they have “Pelvic Bone”?</em></u></b></span><br />
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There are many teacher shepherds in UBF. Some of them are Liberal Studies
teacher. Let's take a look at the video below, and have a L.S.
lesson.<o:p></o:p><br />
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<a data-mce-href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCXeTCUQWh8" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCXeTCUQWh8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCXeTCUQWh8</a><br />
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Reflections</span><span style="font-weight: normal;">:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: normal;"><br />
1. Did the shepherds (especially ancestor of faith shep. Tang) confuse the
public</span><span style="font-weight: normal;">?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: normal;"><br />
2. In the KimChi Seminar</span><span style="font-weight: normal;">,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: normal;">did the missionaries and ancestor of faith <em>undertake</em> the <em>consequence</em> by themselves?<br />
3. As an <em>ancestor of faith, dose
he has “shoulder”? As missionaries, do they have “Pelvic Bone”?</em><br />
4. Who has <em>single-handedly
caused</em> the false and misleading speech?<o:p></o:p></span></span></h3>
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there a Kim family's earthquake after the KimChi seminar</span><span style="font-weight: normal;">?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial; font-weight: normal;"><br />
6. Did the missionaries pass the buck? Did the shepherds need to take
the rap?<br />
7. Did the missionaries use the local shepherds to become their shields?<o:p></o:p></span></span></h3>
<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: small;">Source: </span><a data-mce-href="http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?t=4894&start=105&mforum=liberalhk" href="http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?t=4894&start=105&mforum=liberalhk">http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?t=4894&start=105&mforum=liberalhk</a></span></div>一群脫離大學生研經宣教會 (UBF) 操控 的得勝者http://www.blogger.com/profile/03844186103553776860noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8849878524072858872.post-62805838347930625062012-05-21T04:02:00.000-07:002012-05-21T21:23:59.298-07:00KimChi Talk’s False Speech by UBF shepherds (21 May 2012)<br />
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">brother_2008 wrote:<br />
” I am a former UBF brother who left UBF a few years ago. When I left, my
feelings was almost the same as that of the previous shepherd’s
leaving testimony a few months ago. The difference is that at that moment, I
was like being isolated and failed to find the right person to share with.”</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">In fact, all exodus of former UBF – </span><st1:place><st1:place><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">Hong Kong</span></st1:place></st1:place><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"> members would
probably experience this sort of mental experience. From “suspecting” to
“struggling”, from “being brainwashed” until “coming back to
senses”, then he would</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">experience some incidents to
trigger him off. At last, he made decision to
leave. Although this process will experience the painful
feeling of discredited, isolation, or even be demoted. However,
when he leaves UBF, he would</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">have
freedom in Christ and could drink the pure spiritual milk, so he will
recover very soon and live a new life filling with freedom and
joy.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">It is said that the incident triggered one fellowship
to leave UBF is in the Q&A session of the CUHK’s KimChi Talk. During
the Q&A session, several UBF core shepherds were suspected of telling
lies, untrue and misleading words publicly. Their behaviors caused some
sheep to question about the integrity of the
shepherds. They began to believe that UBF is an abusive church
and made a decision to leave.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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important cases in CUHK’s KimChi Talk on</span><span lang="EN-US"> </span><st1:date day="11" month="4" year="2012"><st1:date day="11" month="4" year="2012"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">11<sup>th</sup> April, 2012</span></st1:date></st1:date><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">:</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">Case 1 (UBF-Hong Kong’s messenger
Shep Tang XX claimed: I am just an ordinary shepherd, I hope that I
could promote to a senior shepherd in the future)</span></u></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">During the Q&A session of CUHK’s KimChi
Talk, one director class shepherd stood up. Dr. Cheung Teng asked him
to introduce which shepherd’s class he belongs to. He kept on smiling and
denied that he is a senior shepherd. He claimed that
he is just an ordinary shepherd. And he even said that he
hopes to promote to a senior shepherd in the future.
However, what is the actual position and the real identity of this shepherd?
The following content is quoted from UBF’s official web site:</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">“Shepherd Hayes Tang reported on Hong Kong Mission, and
shared his life testimony. He became a born again Christian through one to one
Bible study during his school days, and then he became an <b><u>ancestor of
faith in Hong Kong UBF</u></b> …”<br />
(source: <a href="http://www/" target="_blank">http://www</a>.<a href="http://ubf.org/content/america-visit-report-moody-park" target="_blank">ubf.org/content/america-visit-report-moody-park</a>) </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">According to UBF’s official web site, Hayes
Tang is the ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF (also called “ancestor
of faith – Abraham”). In UBF, every University has only one ancestor of
faith. The statues of the ancestor of faith in
UBF is very high and is highly-honored by missionaries. Shep.
Hayes Tang is not only the ancestor of faith of one university, he is
even the ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF which is a chapter
combined by few universities. However, he claimed himself to
be an ordinary shepherd. Obviously, he
is suspected of telling lies publicly. Furthermore, he also
said that he would like to promote to a senior shepherd. Does he
think that being the ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF is
not enough? Does he even have a greater ambition to pursue further
promotion?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">Summary</span></u><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"> of case 1</span></u><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">:</span></u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"> As the ancestor of faith of
Hong Kong UBF, he was actually giving false speech, leading
to the questioning about his integrity. As a faith
ancestor and messenger of UBF, he did not set a good example of speaking
honestly. Will he bring bad influence of releasing false
speech publicly to UBF’s shepherds, brothers and sisters?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">Case 2 (Shep. “Wanna Buy House”, sheep of
Shep. Tang XX, claimed, “I have freedom to travel and my life in
UBF-Hong Kong is very free. If being Shepherds are so busy, I think I
have already left UBF.”</span></u></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">(Remarks: Shepherd “Wanna Buy House” once wanted
to buy a house but his ideas was rejected and<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>judged
by missionary.)</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">During the KimChi Talk, Shep. “Wanna Buy House” claimed
that his life was very free in UBF. He could even
go traveling and buy T-shirt, etc. However, his
statement was misleading. Since according to
the message of Shep. TangXX, “Traveling” is worldly (or an
example of the easy-going life). Let’s see below the UBF-HK’s faith
ancestor TangXX’s teaching (Message of Chapter III in UBF-HK).
In his message, he pointed out “traveling” is a “wide gate”, that </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">leads to destruction:</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">"But
for the wide doors, it is no need
to invite others or to send invitation card. Everyday
there are people forming teams to enter. They might form teams like
“Tour group”, “Food group”, “Shopping group”… to rush into the wide gate.
Therefore, although behind the wide gate are “Comfort Station”,
“Pleasure Station”, “Vanity station”, ”Crime Station”, but …the
terminus is “Perish”…So what is the actual difference between “narrow gate” and
“wide gate”? “Wide gate” means “having a free (easy-going) life”. People do not
need hard-working or struggling spiritually but they can
still enter the wide gate. Behind the wide gate, people can
enjoy comfort and lust. Therefore, choosing “wide gate” is
a natural practice. On the way of wide road, people can meet many
friends and they would not feel lonely.” (source: message of Chapter
III, </span><st1:date day="21" month="9" year="2008"><st1:date day="21" month="9" year="2008"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">21/9/2008</span></st1:date></st1:date><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">, Mat </span><st1:time hour="7" minute="13"><st1:time hour="7" minute="13"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">7:13</span></st1:time></st1:time><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">-29)</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US">Indeed, </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">Shep. “Wanna Buy House” shared
sogam in the message of 2011 HK SBC. He mentioned that his
coworker cannot pass the “language benchmark test” for three
years, so she was requested to repent.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">“…but I work with computer
everyday, so I don’t know how to love the others. Last year, my
coworker (wife) could neither find any sheep nor any job. She also
failed to pass the “language benchmark test” in the past three years. She was
not only discouraged, but also looked down by others. Those who did
not understand her, just asked her to repent, but did not
realize that she was one who also need to be shepherding. I
felt her frustration. I encouraged her that God can
easily give you a job.” </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span><st1:date day="14" month="8" year="2011"><st1:date day="14" month="8" year="2011"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">14/8/2011</span></st1:date></st1:date><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">, message of HK SBC</span><span lang="EN-US">, John </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">21:1-17)</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">Summary</span></u><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"> of
case 2</span></u><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">:</span></u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">From the above
message and sogam, we can see that shep.Tang XX’s sheep, “Shep. Wanna Buy
House”, cannot live freely in the real world as he said. His wife was
requested to repent and lacked of being shepherded. If he follows the
teaching of TangXX, it is impossible for him to travel. Therefore, his speech
was misleading or untrue. It is presumptuous for him to speak such misleading
or untrue speech. Is it inherited from TangXX?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Case 3 (A CUHK Shepherdess, Shep. G, claimed, “I was not
arranged marriage in UBF”)</span></u></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">During KimChi Talk, Dr Cheung </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">Teng asked if UBF will arrange
marriage and asked the UBF shepherds whether they were arranged
marriage in UBF or not, and asked them to answer one by one. At that time,
all shepherds kept silent, including the faith ancestor shep. TangXX.
Nobody answered. However, Shep. G stood up suddenly and took herself as an
example. She told that she had a boyfriend before, and later they got
married in UBF, instead of being “arranged marriage”. Although
she was telling something true, she hided the fact that 90% of the shepherds
are arranged married in UBF – Hong Kong. Her marriage is just a rare example in
UBF. Although she did not tell lie, such speech is misleading people to
think that brothers and sister have freedom to date
with someone and choose to marry in UBF-Hong Kong.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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an example, so that people think that not all shepherds are arranged to marry
in UBF. However, she did not honestly point out the fact that 90% of the marriages
of shepherds are “arranged marriages”. This practice was misleading, confusing
the public and resulted of losing her integrity.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">Recently, a former UBF member
shared with me honestly the follows:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">Since his shepherd often told
him that the speech on web are false, it is difficult for him to distinguish
whether they are true or false, as a result, he hesitated and stayed in UBF for a
period. However, “KimChi Talk” helped trigger his decision to leave UBF because
he personally saw that UBF shepherds was lying, hiding the facts, misleading and
confusing the public. The missionaries (as leaders) were hiding behind in the
Q&A session of KimChi Talk. These triggered him to question the integrity
of the UBF missionaries and shepherds. Finally, he realized that the speech on
web is mostly with evident to support. He had reflections after “KimChi Talk”
and he finally made decision to leave UBF-Hong Kong. He left UBF because he
heard the voice of UBF shepherds (especially those
with ancestor class), and that helped trigger his decision to
leave UBF.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">I believe those shepherds,
including Shep. Tang XX, Shep. G and Shep. “Wanna buy house”, are victims
indeed. They are kind-hearted. They thought that they could stand out as the
shields for the missionaries which caused this exp</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">osure</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;"> of their speech suspected of lying and misleading.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">I hope those missionaries,
as leaders, do not use the poor local shepherds to become their
shields. So that they could be leaders who walk in front of
the sheep bravely to face and address the issue of UBF’s manipulation,
dictatorship and lies, etc.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">“</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">You
belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s
desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth,
for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for
he is a liar and the father of lies.” (John 8:44) This key verse is often used
by UBF shepherds for teaching the sheep. Hope that each time when they teach
the sheep this key verse, they could also reflect on it.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<u1:p></u1:p>一群脫離大學生研經宣教會 (UBF) 操控 的得勝者http://www.blogger.com/profile/03844186103553776860noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8849878524072858872.post-85678747907303955712012-05-16T17:27:00.000-07:002012-05-17T20:54:16.407-07:00泡菜講座中的失實言論 (17 May 2012)<br />
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<span style="color: #444444; font-family: 新細明體; font-size: 10.5pt;">自己是數年前離開</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.5pt;">UBF</span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: 新細明體; font-size: 10.5pt;">的弟兄,離開時的感受與某牧者在多月前的離開見證幾乎完全一樣。只是那刻像被孤立,未有找到合適對象能一同分享。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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</span><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">其實所有離開者都必定會經歷這些心路歷程,從起初懷疑到爭扎,從被洗腦到醒悟過來,再經歷一些導火線而決志離開,雖然過程中會因不斷被抹黑、孤立、甚至被降職而痛苦,但離開</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">之後,因著擁有基督裏的自由,和可以喝到純正的靈奶,很快便恢復過來,過著自由喜樂的新生活。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">據聞今次觸發那團契成員離開的導火線,是由於泡菜講座裏</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> Q&A </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的環節中,幾位</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">核心牧者的言論有說謊、失實和誤導之嫌,令那團契的羔羊質疑牧者們的誠信,及覺得</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">是一所有問題的教會,而最終決定離開。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">以下列出泡菜講座中的幾個重要個案:</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-size: large;"><b><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">個案一(</span></u></b><b><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">信息僕人鄧</span></u></b><b><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">XX</span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">牧者聲稱:我是一般牧者,希望將來有機會可以升做高級牧者)</span></u></b></span><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-size: large;"> </span> </span></b><br />
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"></span></b><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">在泡菜講座</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Q&A </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的尾段時,一位</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">董事級牧者,站起來「笑口噬噬」地否認自己是高級牧者,只是個「一般牧者」,甚至說自己也希望一天有機會可以升做「高級牧者」,然而,這位牧者在教會中的位置及真正身份究竟是甚麼呢?以下是摘自</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">官方網站的內容:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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“Shepherd Hayes Tang reported on Hong Kong Mission,and shared his life
testimony. He became a born again Christian through one to one Bible study
during his school days, and then he became an <b><u>ancestor of faith in
Hong Kong UBF</u></b> …”<br />
(source: <a href="http://www.ubf.org/content/america-visit-report-moody-park">http://www.ubf.org/content/america-visit-report-moody-park</a>)<br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">根據</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的官方網站,這位牧者是香港</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的「信心祖宗」(又稱為信心祖宗亞伯拉罕),在</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">裏每所大學都只有一位信心祖宗,而信心祖宗的地位崇高,是僅次於宣教士的,而</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Hayes
Tang</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">牧者不單止是一所大學的祖宗,更是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Hong Kong UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的信心祖宗,但他卻稱自己為一般牧者,這明顯有公開說謊之嫌,而且,他還想升做高級牧者,莫非他覺得自己只是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Hong Kong UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的信心祖宗還不夠麼?還想升職麼?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">小結:</span><span style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">身為</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Hong Kong UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的信心祖宗,竟然公開地說失實的言論,令人質疑其誠信,他身為信息僕人,沒有以身作則地說誠實話,會否將隨便公開講失實言論的壞影響力帶給</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Hong Kong UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的牧者和弟兄姊妹呢?</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-size: large;"><b><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">個案二(鄧XX的羔羊「想買樓牧者」聲稱:我可以自由自在地去旅行,如果牧者的聚會是如此密集,我就會離開</span></u></b><b><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">了)</span></u></b><b><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></u></b></span><b><u><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span>
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</span><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">「想買樓牧者」在講座中站出來說自己在</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">裏十分自由,還可以去旅行、買</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">T-shirt</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">等。他的言論有誤導之嫌,因為按</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的教導去旅行是世俗的,以下是他的牧者</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF - Hong Kong</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">「信心祖宗」所領導的三部崇拜的主日信息,指出去旅行是進闊門,而最終是要滅亡:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">「但對於闊門,不需要邀請人或邀請卡,也每天有人,甚至組隊地進入;好像旅行團、美食團、優惠搶購團,紛紛地進入闊門</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">…</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">所以雖然闊門之後有舒服站、享樂站、虛榮站、犯罪站,但</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">…</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">總站是滅亡</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">…</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">那麼,闊門和窄門實際上指著甚麼呢</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">? </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">闊門指著自由自在的生活:人不需要努力,</span><span style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">不需要屬靈掙扎都可以進入闊門。闊門後有安逸和情慾可以享受。選擇闊門是自然不過的事,在那寬敞的路上人可以遇見不同的朋友,</span><span style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">一點也不孤單。」</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> (</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">摘自</span><st1:chsdate day="21" islunardate="False" isrocdate="False" month="9" w:st="on" year="2008"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">2008</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">年</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">9</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">月</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">21</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">日</span></st1:chsdate><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">第</span><span style="font-family: 細明體;">Ⅲ</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">部信息</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">), </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">馬太福音</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> 7:13-29)<br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">事實上,「想買樓牧者」也曾分享過自己同工因三次考不到基準試,而被人叫她悔改的所感:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">從以上信息和所感可見,鄧XX的羔羊「想買樓牧者」並非如他所說的可以在現實世界裏,自由自在地生活,若他真的遵從鄧XX的教導,他也不可能去旅行。因此,他的言論有誤導或失實之嫌。他斗膽公開地說誤導或失實的言論,會否從鄧XX身上承襲下來呢?</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">泡菜講座中,滕師母詢問</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">牧者</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">是否有配婚安排,並請他們逐一說出自己是否被配婚。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">這時候,所有被配婚的牧者</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">包括鄧</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">XX)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">也沉默下來,不作回應,然而,那時一位</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">G</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">姊妹牧者站出來,說自己是跟男朋友拍拖,後來在</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">裏結婚的,並不是配婚的。雖然這姊妹牧者說的不錯,但事實上,香港</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">裏有九成</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">牧者也是被配婚的,而她只是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">裏罕有的例子。雖然她並沒有說謊,但這樣的言論卻同樣有誤導成份,令人誤以為</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">容許信徒自由拍拖和結婚。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">小結:這位非配婚</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">G</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">牧者,舉自己作為例子,使人覺得</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">裏並非所有牧者都是被配婚的,但她卻沒有指出九成</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">牧者也是被配婚的事實真相,以如此手法隱惡揚善、誤導信徒,實在有失誠信。</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-size: large;"><b><u><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">泡菜講座的餘波</span></u></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
</span><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">最近,一位離開</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的人坦誠告訴我,由於早前他的牧者經常告訴他「網上的言論是假的」,令他難以分辨真偽,而留在</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">猶豫了多時,但最終觸發他離開</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的原因,就是因為他在泡菜講座中,親眼看見</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的牧者在公開場合公然說謊、隱瞞事實、誤導信徒及作為領袖的宣教士在</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Q&A</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">時躲在後面等真相,令他開始懷疑</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的宣教士和牧者的誠信,並發現網上許多言論都是事實。經過這次泡菜講座後的反思,他最終決定離開</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">了。這位前</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">成員的離開,完全是因為聽了</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">牧者們</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">特別是祖宗級的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的聲音,而觸發他決志離開</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">我相信以上的牧者鄧XX牧者、</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">G</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">牧者、想買樓牧者其實都是受害者,他們一片好心,以為自己可以站出來作宣教士的擋箭牌,才導致被人揭發他們言論有說謊及失實之嫌,希望作為領袖的宣教士不好再利用可憐的本地牧者作他們的擋箭牌,可以勇敢地作「行在前頭」的領袖,面對及正視</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的操控、獨裁、說謊等嚴重問題。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">「你們是出於你們的父魔鬼,你們父的私慾,你們偏要行,他從起初是殺人的,不守真理.因他心裡沒有真理,他說謊是出於自己,因他本來是說謊的,也是說謊之人的父。」(約</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">8:44</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">)這是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">牧者經常教訓羔羊時用的金句,希望每次當他們教訓羔羊這金句之前,也反思一下吧!</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?t=4894&start=105&mforum=liberalhk"><span lang="FR">http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?t=4894&start=105&mforum=liberalhk</span></a></span><span lang="FR" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 9pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>一群脫離大學生研經宣教會 (UBF) 操控 的得勝者http://www.blogger.com/profile/03844186103553776860noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8849878524072858872.post-5696975288845785732012-05-13T07:46:00.000-07:002012-05-13T08:50:03.746-07:00Prayer for Hong Kong UBF (13 May 2012)<br />
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<span lang="EN-US">Posted on </span><st1:date day="5" month="12" year="2012"><span lang="EN-US">05/12/2012</span></st1:date><span lang="EN-US">, </span><st1:time hour="17" minute="53"><span lang="EN-US">5:53 pm</span></st1:time><span lang="EN-US">, by briank <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US">Today I received the following email from a former Hong Kong UBF member.
With her permission, I share the unedited email. Please pray for our brothers
and sisters in Hong Kong UBF who are experiencing painful division. The main
reason is the same as in other UBF chapters: a constant demand by leaders for
sheep to submit to their authority, in the name of “keeping spiritual order”
and honoring the UBF spiritual heritage above human relationships. As I wrote
earlier in November 2011, this problem has been ongoing in Hong Kong UBF.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US">1 Corinthians 12:26-27 “26 If one part suffers, every part suffers with
it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it. 27 Now you
are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.”<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US">On 12.05.2012 00:37, Exodus Ubf wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US">Dear Brain,<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US">Thank you for your support and encouragement on your blog. I am glad to
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<span lang="EN-US">We just heard a news that one house church (Shep Paul Liu & Shep Rebekah)
and their fellowship members have all left HK UBF last week. Rebekah is
the greatest disciple of Msn Angela Kim (other than Shep Maria and her
coworker Shep Hayes Tang) and Her fellowship once was the biggest family
(around 10-20 members) in HKUBF. Actually Shep. Paul Liu once was the
ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF and he is one of the messengers of SWS
(Chapter II) in HKUBF. However, Msn Angela Kim suddenly raised up Shep
Hayes Tang as the Abraham of Faith to replace his position. Here is his
testimony:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US">“Shepherd Hayes Tang reported on Hong Kong Mission,and shared his life
testimony. He became a born again Christian through one to one Bible study
during his school days, and then he became an ancestor of faith in Hong
Kong UBF …”<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US">(source: <a href="http://www.ubf.org/content/america-visit-report-moody-park">http://www.ubf.org/content/america-visit-report-moody-park</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US">Last week, Shep Rebekah leave UBF together with her fellowship members.
We don’t know the details for the cause of their leaving, exactly numbers
of exodus and their future plans. However, one brother told us that she
might be blamed by Msn Angela Kim. Actually, we know that Shep Rebekah has
long been discredited by Msn Angela Kim because she had her own thinking,
did not listen to her words and obey her absolutely.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US">Indeed, it is because Shep Rebekah loves the sheep so much, and she
doesn’t want to use the UBF method of dictatorship and manipulation to
serve God’s sheep.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US">We tell her that some pastors who are familiar with the operation of UBF
are very willing to have Bible study or counselling supports to them if they
need. And we will remember them in our prayer.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US">Thank you for your continuous concern about UBF – Hong Kong. May God
bless you and you family.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US">In Christ,<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US">source: <a href="http://www.priestlynation.com/archives/1020">http://www.priestlynation.com/archives/1020</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<br />一群脫離大學生研經宣教會 (UBF) 操控 的得勝者http://www.blogger.com/profile/03844186103553776860noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8849878524072858872.post-27083743697910246422012-05-10T17:05:00.000-07:002012-05-23T17:25:29.049-07:00睇d野宣教士點解不叫佢同工去”執執個look”,而只叫弟兄姊妹呢? (11 May 2012)<span style="font-size: large;"><b>English: <a href="http://hkubf.blogspot.com/2011/11/english-21-nov-2011.html">http://hkubf.blogspot.com/2011/11/english-21-nov-2011.html</a></b></span><br />
(<b style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 20px;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 14pt;">Why don’t “Watching something missionary” request his/her coworker to do make-up, rather than requesting the bros. & sis.? </span></b><b style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 20px;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 14pt;">(11 May 2012) </span></b>)<br />
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<b>(<span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; line-height: 20px;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">"Watching something” missionary ignored the health of bros. & sis., and commanded bros. and sis. to follow the example of "armor" (</span></span><st1:date day="10" month="5" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; line-height: 20px;" year="2012"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">10 May 2012</span></st1:date><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; line-height: 20px;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial;">) </span></span>)</b><br />
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<span style="color: #444444; font-family: 新細明體; font-size: 10.5pt;">今日看到馬丁路德的一篇講章。雖然裡面說的是修道士的生活,但是放在這組織內亦很貼切。我領受的兩點是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.5pt;">:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.5pt;"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.5pt;"><br />
1. </span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: 新細明體; font-size: 10.5pt;">每個人都是順服於神,從神領受呼召,不能由別人強迫。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.5pt;"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.5pt;"><br />
2. </span><span style="color: #444444; font-family: 新細明體; font-size: 10.5pt;">不能因為有人做得到,別人就一定要跟著做。因為每個人都是不同。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.5pt;"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="color: #444444; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.5pt;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">謝謝你的分享!這組織確有這問題:強迫人服侍或在群眾壓力</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">人的目光</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">下而不得不服侍。其實這問題是從身為領袖的宣教士開始的,以下就是一個例子,是多年前舉行聖經學校前的禱告會中發生的:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">當時</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">"</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">睇d野</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">"</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">宣教士於報告時,竟然說:全體牧者要向阿鐵甲牧者學習,因為佢</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">當時</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">每星期服事超過二十對查經,又說這消息震驚韓國弟兄姊妹,由於她竭力服事以至沒有時間吃東西,然後這宣教士就向全體弟兄姊妹說:聖經學校要像天國筵席,不要黑口黑臉來參加聚會,如果有姊妹黑口黑臉的話,可以化妝來令臉發光,如果你不懂化妝,就向鐵甲牧者請教,鐵甲牧者臉上時常發光,因佢會用化妝。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">由此可見,宣教士常用</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">"</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">高舉某人來給予其他人壓力</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">"</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">這手段,這些事情屢見不鮮。就如以上例子:宣教士藉著高舉鐵甲牧者,來</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">”</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">激</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">”</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">勵牧者們,令到無乜羔羊的牧者十分悲慘、在人的眼光中受藐視或無地位;當然,牧者們又會把這個壓力傳遞下去,令羔羊最終感到群眾壓力而不得不按牧者的意思去作。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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Q1.</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;"> 不吃飯去服侍,完全忽視自己的身體健康,即使是幼稚園學的常識也會教導學生注意身康健康,要均衡飲食,但UBF的宣教士竟然完全忽視,難道韓國幼稚園沒有教?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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Q2. </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">假如那些姊妹聽完宣教士的說話後,學鐵甲牧者不吃飯去服侍而途中暈倒,要自費看醫生,帶來金錢、身體和時間的損失,是誰要負的責任呢?是佢的責任麼?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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Q3. </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">宣教士又不是神,佢怎知道鐵甲牧者竭力服侍的動機呢</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">? </span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">或許佢是因爭競嫉妒,或追求人的榮耀呢?(註:曾經一段時間,鐵甲牧者為到與兩位高級姊妹牧者</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">不過其中一位後來出國了,而一位仍在</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">)</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">爭競的罪惡,而公開分享悔改的所感,宣教士又怎能排除佢是因爭競嫉妒或人的榮耀,而竭力服侍的可能呢?而且出於這些動機的服侍也不能榮耀神。)</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">介紹你看以下網站,可讓你更了解全球</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的實際操作:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">該網資料十分豐富,從不同角度解構這組織!</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: 新細明體;">溫馨提示:若有讀者從未聽過何為</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的屬靈遺產,可先到以下網站閱讀有關文章:</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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Brian<span style="font-family: 新細明體;">您好,感謝您的文章。在香港</span><span lang="EN-US">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">,我們有的版本是八點</span><span lang="EN-US">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">屬靈遺產的那一版本,而每個信心家庭也有一幅印有</span><span lang="EN-US">Samuel Lee</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的肖像及八點屬靈遺產,並掛在每個信心家庭的家中,屬靈遺產八點如下:</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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1. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">歸向聖經</span><span lang="EN-US"> (Go Back to the Bible)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br />
2. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">通過平信徒宣教士遵行世界宣教使命</span><span lang="EN-US"> (World mission through lay missionaries)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br />
3. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">通過</span><span lang="EN-US">1:1</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">查經成就校園福音化</span> <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">(</span><span lang="EN-US">Campus evangelism through
one-to-one Bible study</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">)</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
4. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">通過家庭教會持守馬糟事工</span> <span lang="EN-US">(Manger ministry through house churches)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br />
5. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">興起門徒事工</span><span lang="EN-US"> (Disciple-making ministry)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br />
6. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">天糧與所感撰寫</span><span lang="EN-US"> (Daily bread and testinony writing)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br />
7. “<span style="font-family: 新細明體;">五餅二魚</span><span lang="EN-US">”</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">的施與精神</span><span lang="EN-US"> (Giving spirit-“five loaves and two
fish”)<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br />
8. <span style="font-family: 新細明體;">為了成為祭司的國度和聖潔的國民而禱告</span><span lang="EN-US"> (Pray to be a kingdom of priests and a
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">其實,<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>自創了很多所謂「屬靈術語」(當然,他們會說這些都是聖經的教導)。按我們的經驗,<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>的屬靈遺產只是一些所謂的「屬靈術語」。而實際上,這些屬靈遺產,只是創辦人的「古人的遺傳」。而且,我認為與他們出版的「<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">50</span>週年」一書中出現的以下句子,出現一些矛盾:<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">「然而,過去<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">50</span>年在<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>裏的聖靈工作,並非出於<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Dr Samuel Lee</span>或<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Mother Barry</span>的想法。」<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">事實上,這些屬靈遺產(或屬靈術語)只是口號,例如,以往韓國<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Director</span>常常強調「香港成為中國十三億同胞的宣教基地<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(Power Station)</span>」,甚至聲稱要差派一百萬宣教士到中國大陸。然而,你可以猜猜從<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">HKUBF</span>差遺了多少位中國內地的宣教士呢?答案是:在過去的<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">26</span>年裡,根本一個也沒有。<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">在<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>中有很多「屬靈術語」。他們常用自己的語言,令你彷如一個大學新生正在上某語言的課堂。大約有<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">100</span>或更多的屬靈術語,是<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>的領袖經常強調的。這些所謂屬靈術語,從來都很少在文字上被記錄下來及被定義。然而,<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>重新定義這些術語和在任何時間按他們的需要而運用,而且有時,不同的領袖會就這些術語有不同的解釋。我擔保你會在<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>的所謂屬靈術語中,找到很多甚麼「精神」和<span style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span>甚麼「<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">XXX</span>主義」(如人本主義,享樂主義等)而發笑。<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">那麼,這些所謂的「屬靈術語」的用途究竟是甚麼呢?根據<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">Steven Hassan</span>,異端或類似異端組織會常用術語<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">(loaded language)</span>,特點是「終止思想的陳詞濫調」,來進行思想控制。這些「特殊」的字眼用作收窄人的理解,而不是擴展理解。(來源:</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="http://www.freedomofmind.com/Info/BITE/bitemodel.php" target="_blank"><span style="color: #5493b4; font-family: Verdana;">http://www.freedomofmind.com/Info/BITE/bitemodel.php</span></a></span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">),他們喜歡用自己的語言和術語,並如有需要便引用它們(來控制別人)。<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">我認為,<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> UBF</span>領袖應上的第一課,就是應學習首先放棄使用這些術語及放棄控制弟兄姐妹,但他們會否願意承認自己實在控制別人及採用術語呢?由於他們必須持守創辦人的「古人的遺傳」,因此這解釋了為何<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span>實在很難去改變,及為何他們在過去<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">50</span>年裏改革了許多許多次,但最終也是「換湯不換藥」。</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>一群脫離大學生研經宣教會 (UBF) 操控 的得勝者http://www.blogger.com/profile/03844186103553776860noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8849878524072858872.post-78551135711664095242012-05-04T19:15:00.001-07:002012-05-04T19:15:05.152-07:00哥林多稅務局向哥林多信徒派「綠色炸彈」 (5 May 2012)<br />
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<span style="font-family: 新細明體;">「以色列人奉命要供給祭司定期奉獻的份</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">……</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">」(摘自</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">UBF</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">天糧,利</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">7:22-38</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">4/5/2012</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">)</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">今天我打開報章看新聞,才得知哥林多稅務局又準備向哥林多信徒派「綠色炸彈」,其實哥林多教會庫房已經水浸,單在<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">08-09</span>年,已有一百萬盈餘,哥林多宣教士又在哥林多長老毫不知情下,借了一筆巨款,還不知有否歸還!如今哥林多稅務局還準備向哥林多信徒派「綠色炸彈」,哥林多信徒其實只為幾斗米而折腰,如今還收到「綠色炸彈」添,真是無淡好食啊!<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">不過,收「綠色炸彈」總算比收「紅色炸彈」好,若果收到「紅色炸彈」,隨時要在一個月之內,與矮過自己的哥林多弟兄結婚,或是與年紀比自己大幾年的哥林多姊妹結婚,還要向泡菜局長交成個月人工的「結婚靚仔靚女稅」,及請全部哥林多弟兄姊妹吃自助餐,到時真是「成個老襯,從此被困」。<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">不過,幸好哥林多教會有鐵甲排骨,因為鐵甲排骨即使無淡好食也十分好戰,因此,只要哥林多宣教士繼續高舉鐵甲排骨,向其他無淡好食的哥林多信徒話:「你們來看,鐵甲排骨無淡好食都出去勤力打獵,仲打到十二隻綿羊,你們要乖乖向佢多多學習啊!」那時,哥林多信徒只好個個<span style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span>「<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;">O</span>嘴」了!<span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana;"><br />
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</span><span style="font-family: 新細明體;">其實今次哥林多教會再次引用哥林多經文第二十三條,來教導哥林多信徒要供給祭司定期奉獻的份,已經不是新鮮的事,實在是見慣不怪了,因為哥林多教會最擅長的就是引用哥林多經文,無論哥林多信徒有甚麼意見,哥林多教會總會快速地找到合適的哥林多經文,然後努力把每個人物角色套進去,進行大洗腦活動。</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12pt;">Source: </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;"><a href="http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?t=4894&start=90&mforum=liberalhk">http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?t=4894&start=90&mforum=liberalhk</a></span></div>一群脫離大學生研經宣教會 (UBF) 操控 的得勝者http://www.blogger.com/profile/03844186103553776860noreply@blogger.com0