UBF CUHK missionary Kim XX confessed the sin “Lust of the eyes” publicly for about ten years (31 Jul 2012)
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As an ancestor of
faith, dose he has “shoulder”? As missionaries, do they have “Pelvic Bone”? (26
May 2012)
Recently, I received the
following email and watched the video clips. I found them very enlightening which taught me a
good lesson of “Liberal Studies”. I hope to share with you:
As
follows (modified slightly):
As an ancestor of faith, dose he
has “shoulder”? As missionaries, do they have “Pelvic Bone”?
There are many teacher shepherds in UBF. Some of them are Liberal Studies
teacher. Let's take a look at the video below, and have a L.S.
lesson.
Questions and
Reflections：
1. Did the shepherds (especially ancestor of faith shep. Tang) confuse the
public？
2. In the KimChi Seminar，did the missionaries and ancestor of faith undertake the consequence by themselves?
3. As an ancestor of faith, dose
he has “shoulder”? As missionaries, do they have “Pelvic Bone”?
4. Who has single-handedly
caused the false and misleading speech?
5. Why was
there a Kim family's earthquake after the KimChi seminar？
6. Did the missionaries pass the buck? Did the shepherds need to take
the rap?
7. Did the missionaries use the local shepherds to become their shields?
Source: http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?t=4894&start=105&mforum=liberalhk
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KimChi Talk’s False Speech by UBF shepherds (21 May 2012)
brother_2008 wrote:
” I am a former UBF brother who left UBF a few years ago. When I left, my feelings was almost the same as that of the previous shepherd’s leaving testimony a few months ago. The difference is that at that moment, I was like being isolated and failed to find the right person to share with.”
In fact, all exodus of former UBF – Hong Kong members would probably experience this sort of mental experience. From “suspecting” to “struggling”, from “being brainwashed” until “coming back to senses”, then he would experience some incidents to trigger him off. At last, he made decision to leave. Although this process will experience the painful feeling of discredited, isolation, or even be demoted. However, when he leaves UBF, he would have freedom in Christ and could drink the pure spiritual milk, so he will recover very soon and live a new life filling with freedom and joy.
It is said that the incident triggered one fellowship to leave UBF is in the Q&A session of the CUHK’s KimChi Talk. During the Q&A session, several UBF core shepherds were suspected of telling lies, untrue and misleading words publicly. Their behaviors caused some sheep to question about the integrity of the shepherds. They began to believe that UBF is an abusive church and made a decision to leave.
The following are several important cases in CUHK’s KimChi Talk on 11th April, 2012:
Case 1 (UBF-Hong Kong’s messenger Shep Tang XX claimed: I am just an ordinary shepherd, I hope that I could promote to a senior shepherd in the future)
During the Q&A session of CUHK’s KimChi Talk, one director class shepherd stood up. Dr. Cheung Teng asked him to introduce which shepherd’s class he belongs to. He kept on smiling and denied that he is a senior shepherd. He claimed that he is just an ordinary shepherd. And he even said that he hopes to promote to a senior shepherd in the future. However, what is the actual position and the real identity of this shepherd? The following content is quoted from UBF’s official web site:
“Shepherd Hayes Tang reported on Hong Kong Mission, and shared his life testimony. He became a born again Christian through one to one Bible study during his school days, and then he became an ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF …”
(source: http://www.ubf.org/content/america-visit-report-moody-park)
According to UBF’s official web site, Hayes Tang is the ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF (also called “ancestor of faith – Abraham”). In UBF, every University has only one ancestor of faith. The statues of the ancestor of faith in UBF is very high and is highly-honored by missionaries. Shep. Hayes Tang is not only the ancestor of faith of one university, he is even the ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF which is a chapter combined by few universities. However, he claimed himself to be an ordinary shepherd. Obviously, he is suspected of telling lies publicly. Furthermore, he also said that he would like to promote to a senior shepherd. Does he think that being the ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF is not enough? Does he even have a greater ambition to pursue further promotion?
Summary of case 1: As the ancestor of faith of Hong Kong UBF, he was actually giving false speech, leading to the questioning about his integrity. As a faith ancestor and messenger of UBF, he did not set a good example of speaking honestly. Will he bring bad influence of releasing false speech publicly to UBF’s shepherds, brothers and sisters?
Case 2 (Shep. “Wanna Buy House”, sheep of Shep. Tang XX, claimed, “I have freedom to travel and my life in UBF-Hong Kong is very free. If being Shepherds are so busy, I think I have already left UBF.”
(Remarks: Shepherd “Wanna Buy House” once wanted to buy a house but his ideas was rejected and judged by missionary.)
During the KimChi Talk, Shep. “Wanna Buy House” claimed that his life was very free in UBF. He could even go traveling and buy T-shirt, etc. However, his statement was misleading. Since according to the message of Shep. TangXX, “Traveling” is worldly (or an example of the easy-going life). Let’s see below the UBF-HK’s faith ancestor TangXX’s teaching (Message of Chapter III in UBF-HK). In his message, he pointed out “traveling” is a “wide gate”, that leads to destruction:
"But for the wide doors, it is no need to invite others or to send invitation card. Everyday there are people forming teams to enter. They might form teams like “Tour group”, “Food group”, “Shopping group”… to rush into the wide gate. Therefore, although behind the wide gate are “Comfort Station”, “Pleasure Station”, “Vanity station”, ”Crime Station”, but …the terminus is “Perish”…So what is the actual difference between “narrow gate” and “wide gate”? “Wide gate” means “having a free (easy-going) life”. People do not need hard-working or struggling spiritually but they can still enter the wide gate. Behind the wide gate, people can enjoy comfort and lust. Therefore, choosing “wide gate” is a natural practice. On the way of wide road, people can meet many friends and they would not feel lonely.” (source: message of Chapter III, 21/9/2008, Mat 7:13-29)
Indeed, Shep. “Wanna Buy House” shared sogam in the message of 2011 HK SBC. He mentioned that his coworker cannot pass the “language benchmark test” for three years, so she was requested to repent.
“…but I work with computer everyday, so I don’t know how to love the others. Last year, my coworker (wife) could neither find any sheep nor any job. She also failed to pass the “language benchmark test” in the past three years. She was not only discouraged, but also looked down by others. Those who did not understand her, just asked her to repent, but did not realize that she was one who also need to be shepherding. I felt her frustration. I encouraged her that God can easily give you a job.” (14/8/2011, message of HK SBC, John 21:1-17)
Summary of case 2: From the above message and sogam, we can see that shep.Tang XX’s sheep, “Shep. Wanna Buy House”, cannot live freely in the real world as he said. His wife was requested to repent and lacked of being shepherded. If he follows the teaching of TangXX, it is impossible for him to travel. Therefore, his speech was misleading or untrue. It is presumptuous for him to speak such misleading or untrue speech. Is it inherited from TangXX?
Case 3 (A CUHK Shepherdess, Shep. G, claimed, “I was not arranged marriage in UBF”)
During KimChi Talk, Dr Cheung Teng asked if UBF will arrange marriage and asked the UBF shepherds whether they were arranged marriage in UBF or not, and asked them to answer one by one. At that time, all shepherds kept silent, including the faith ancestor shep. TangXX. Nobody answered. However, Shep. G stood up suddenly and took herself as an example. She told that she had a boyfriend before, and later they got married in UBF, instead of being “arranged marriage”. Although she was telling something true, she hided the fact that 90% of the shepherds are arranged married in UBF – Hong Kong. Her marriage is just a rare example in UBF. Although she did not tell lie, such speech is misleading people to think that brothers and sister have freedom to date with someone and choose to marry in UBF-Hong Kong.
Summary of case 3: Shepherdess G took herself as an example, so that people think that not all shepherds are arranged to marry in UBF. However, she did not honestly point out the fact that 90% of the marriages of shepherds are “arranged marriages”. This practice was misleading, confusing the public and resulted of losing her integrity.
The aftermath of KimChi Talk
Recently, a former UBF member shared with me honestly the follows:
Since his shepherd often told him that the speech on web are false, it is difficult for him to distinguish whether they are true or false, as a result, he hesitated and stayed in UBF for a period. However, “KimChi Talk” helped trigger his decision to leave UBF because he personally saw that UBF shepherds was lying, hiding the facts, misleading and confusing the public. The missionaries (as leaders) were hiding behind in the Q&A session of KimChi Talk. These triggered him to question the integrity of the UBF missionaries and shepherds. Finally, he realized that the speech on web is mostly with evident to support. He had reflections after “KimChi Talk” and he finally made decision to leave UBF-Hong Kong. He left UBF because he heard the voice of UBF shepherds (especially those with ancestor class), and that helped trigger his decision to leave UBF.
I believe those shepherds, including Shep. Tang XX, Shep. G and Shep. “Wanna buy house”, are victims indeed. They are kind-hearted. They thought that they could stand out as the shields for the missionaries which caused this exposure of their speech suspected of lying and misleading.
I hope those missionaries, as leaders, do not use the poor local shepherds to become their shields. So that they could be leaders who walk in front of the sheep bravely to face and address the issue of UBF’s manipulation, dictatorship and lies, etc.
“You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.” (John 8:44) This key verse is often used by UBF shepherds for teaching the sheep. Hope that each time when they teach the sheep this key verse, they could also reflect on it.
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Prayer for Hong Kong UBF (13 May 2012)
Posted on 05/12/2012, 5:53 pm, by briank
Today I received the following email from a former Hong Kong UBF member. With her permission, I share the unedited email. Please pray for our brothers and sisters in Hong Kong UBF who are experiencing painful division. The main reason is the same as in other UBF chapters: a constant demand by leaders for sheep to submit to their authority, in the name of “keeping spiritual order” and honoring the UBF spiritual heritage above human relationships. As I wrote earlier in November 2011, this problem has been ongoing in Hong Kong UBF.
1 Corinthians 12:26-27 “26 If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it. 27 Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.”
On 12.05.2012 00:37, Exodus Ubf wrote:
Dear Brain,
Thank you for your support and encouragement on your blog. I am glad to be your friend too.
We just heard a news that one house church (Shep Paul Liu & Shep Rebekah) and their fellowship members have all left HK UBF last week. Rebekah is the greatest disciple of Msn Angela Kim (other than Shep Maria and her coworker Shep Hayes Tang) and Her fellowship once was the biggest family (around 10-20 members) in HKUBF. Actually Shep. Paul Liu once was the ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF and he is one of the messengers of SWS (Chapter II) in HKUBF. However, Msn Angela Kim suddenly raised up Shep Hayes Tang as the Abraham of Faith to replace his position. Here is his testimony:
“Shepherd Hayes Tang reported on Hong Kong Mission,and shared his life testimony. He became a born again Christian through one to one Bible study during his school days, and then he became an ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF …”
Last week, Shep Rebekah leave UBF together with her fellowship members. We don’t know the details for the cause of their leaving, exactly numbers of exodus and their future plans. However, one brother told us that she might be blamed by Msn Angela Kim. Actually, we know that Shep Rebekah has long been discredited by Msn Angela Kim because she had her own thinking, did not listen to her words and obey her absolutely.
Indeed, it is because Shep Rebekah loves the sheep so much, and she doesn’t want to use the UBF method of dictatorship and manipulation to serve God’s sheep.
We tell her that some pastors who are familiar with the operation of UBF are very willing to have Bible study or counselling supports to them if they need. And we will remember them in our prayer.
Thank you for your continuous concern about UBF – Hong Kong. May God bless you and you family.
In Christ,
HK Exodus
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Why don’t “Watching something missionary” request his/her coworker to do
make-up, rather than requesting the bros. & sis.? (11 May 2012)
I remembered
that "Watching something” missionary have also mentioned many times that
if sisters love Jesus, they will be very beautiful and no need to use SK-II
(make-up products). Is "Watching something” missionary implying that the
sisters were not loving Jesus and thus they should use make-up? If this is true,
does Devil Angel and Armor using make-up imply that they do not love Jesus
and they had dark faces?
The coworker
of "Watching something” missionary always blame the others with a dark
face in GBS, why don’t "Watching something” missionary command his/her
coworker to use make-up to make the face bright?
Why doesn’t
"Watching something” missionary give pressure to his/her coworker to serve
more than 20 sheeps, instead of giving pressure to the bros. & sis.? I have
heard that "Watching something” missionary served only 1 sheep for a long
period. So he/she “seized” the sheeps (force others to give sheeps) from
another missionary and other shepherd. The sheeps that he/she has right now,
were seized from the others. For example, Blad Elisha, Prince with faith’s
root. Once “Devil Angel” said that “Watching something” missionary seized
his/her sheep while he/she was serious sick. He/she seemed to be very
tragic while speaking. The “devil angel” said these things behind him. Even
that missionary did not know that he/she was discredited by the others.
Actually, if
"Watching something” missionary had no sheep, he/she should follow his/her
teaching to use make-up, which is betther than seizing the sheeps from the
others. On the other hand, “Devil Angel” always speak ill of the other behind.
This is not right.
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"Watching
something” missionary ignored the health of bros. & sis., and commanded
bros. and sis. to follow the example of "armor" (10 May 2012)
Posted on: 05-08-2012 9:10 Post subject: Re: On the
freedom of Christians
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ffgh wrote:
Today I read
a sermon of Martin Luther. Although this sermon talks about monk's life,
but is very suit for describing this organization. I get two points as
follows :
(1)
Everyone is obedience to God, received the calling from God, and cannot
be forced by the others.
(2)
cannot because some people can, the others must follow them.
Because everyone is different.
However, this
organization has a lot of things of forcing someone to serve. From the
sermon, this organization cannot make people to live the Christian life.
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Thank you for
sharing! This organization does have this problem: one is forced to serve or
have to serve under peer pressure (others’ eyes). In fact, this problem starts
from the missionaries as the leaders. The following is an example, it happened
in a praying meeting of Bible School many years
ago.
At that time,
“watching something” missionary gave an announcement and said, all the
shepherds should learnt from Armor, because he/she served more than 20 1:1 each
week, and said the news has shocked the Korean brothers and sisters , because
she struggled to serve even he/she did not have time to eat. And then the
missionaries said to all the brothers and sisters, "the Bible School should be like the heaven banquet, do not bring the dark face to the meetings,
if any sister has dark face, she can use make-up to make the face shiny, if you
do not know how to make-up, you can ask armor who always has bright face
because of using make-up."
As shown in
the above example, the missionaries are used to use the mean of
"glorifying someone to give pressure to the others", and these things
are very common. Such as the above example, the missionary gave
“Shock encouragements” to the others through glorifying armor. As a result
making shep without much sheeps very tragic, subject to contempt in the eyes of
others or lower poisition in the church. Of course, the shepherds will
also pass on the pressures to the sheeps, the sheeps will obey to do what the
shepherds request ultimately under such kind of peer pressure.
Q1. “Serving
without eating” is completely ignoring one’s health. Even the
kindergarten will teach the students such common sense of aware one’s health
and to have a balanced diet. However UBF's missionaries are totally ignoring
it. Does the Korean kindergarten not teach about that?
Q2. If those
sisters listened to the words of the missionary to learn armor serve without
eating and fainted on the way, as a result she need to see a doctor by using
her own expense. It brings the loss the money, physical body, and time. So
whose responsibility is it? Is it the responsibility of the missionary?
Q3 Missionary
is not “God”. How can he/she know the motivation of serving of the armor?
Perhaps it is due to competing and jealousy, or the pursuit of the glory
of human? (Note: once the armor are competing with two senior sisters
Shepherds (though one of them went abroad later, while the other is
still in UBF) , and he/she repented the sins of competing with them
through sharing sogam publicly. How can the missionary omit the possibility of
strife and jealousy, or the glory, striving to serve? Indeed serving God with
such motives cannot glorify God.)
Let me
introduce you the following website which allows you to better understand the
actual operation of the global UBF:
The content
is very rich. It analyze this organization from different points of views.
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One more
excellent example of UBF "say one thing and do another" practice (4 May 2012)
“The
special relationship between Israel and God is
an unimaginable privilege. His people have been given great freedom, they do
not have the book tyrant slave life. "
"Through
the establishment of boundaries, God protect him and where from the spiritual
and physical harm."
(UBF Daily Bread, Lev 7:22-38, 4
/ 5/2012)
1. UBF believers actually do not want to pay a high
cost to participate the International Bible Conference. However, since Shepherd
“armor” even without money but borrow money from his/her father to participate
it, the other UBF believers subject to great pressure, had to scrimp and save
but also to participate by paying their own cost;
2 UBF believers are required to serve a lot from morning to
night, and must report to the missionary about the serving and the number, they
often afraid of the number of the fellowship members is less than the others,
not good enough, or innuendo and criticism by UBF missionary in the message/
DB, they often tied up by fear;
3 UBF believers must obey the arrangement of
marriage. They must marry even with a brother who is a few years younger, or a
brother who is shorter, or gay or a sister with staunch character, like
soldiers, and they must marry within one month.
4. UBF shepherd wants to buy a flat, but he could not.
5. UBF shep. take the
"English benchmark test " many times but fail, some coworkers did not
comfort him/her. Instead, they ask him/her to repent.
6.
UBF shep who has a root of faith is asked to absolute attend the
Sunday worship. As a result, he/she cannot take the Sunday benchmark tests, and
he/she must wait one more year to retake the test;
7.
UBF scapegoat sister's son even has a high fever. However, his/her
Shepherd forced he/her to absolute attend Bible study. However, afterwards
he/she said that this behavior is just the spiritual mother taught spiritual
sons and daughters;
8. If UBF believers do not listen the words of the UBF
missionaries, he/she will be arranged to study Bible with a “Troubled Senior
Shep” at any time.
9
When UBF sheep grow to a period of time, UBF missionaries
would come, and ask you to give the sheep to he/she, to study Bible with
him/her (in fact, they want to get your fruit, i.e. your sheep);
10.
UBF missionaries do not need to wash the toilet, but you need to do all, such
as vacuuming, mopping, cleaning the toilet, etc.;
11. UBF missionary has salary, but you even fail to get the minimum salary $28
(in HK) for washing toilet;
12. UBF missionaries have the right to criticize you, even publicly accuse you.
But if you dissatisfied and complain about them, then you may be discredited or
they will pray for your weak faith publicly.
13. UBF missionaries ignore to deal with the church the core issue (for
example: control, dictatorship, financial ...), but if you dissatisfacted with
these issues, the UBF missionaries will say that these are complains, sins,
thankless, etc. And you have to written sogam to repent the sin of
thankless.
Q1: Is the life of the UBF believers really like what is said in Daily Bread
that they can enjoy great freedom, or they are living in the life of a tyrant
slave?
Q2: Why the boundary established by UBF missionaries to UBF believers is obviously
violating the Bible teaching, severe beyond the boundaries of it?
Source: http://www.armbell.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4894&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=90&sid=2f22d6e6c4fefe966c377026dbd8b79d&mforum=liberalhk
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A Corinth
missionary’s sogam - stretched out the hands of kimchi (24 Apr 2012)
Prayer:
Please to today's twenty-first century in a civilized city, Hong Kong,
manipulation, and the dictatorship of the Jesus people pray, Pray executeth
righteousness trial, came to embrace the right of the dictator, so that the
oppressed people have with release, re had a free and peaceful life.
Part 1 I have never stretched out my hand
"Jesus
commanded that we held out his hand in front of everybody, that is, the
gathering of the saints, with a cure for the main confidence, personal shame
sin to the light, so the Lord to heal and clean. For example, through sharing
sogam, we can stretch our right hand out for the Lord to heal. "(From of
UBF III of the worship information, 22/4, Luke 6:1-19)
(1) If held out his hand is so good, why Corinth missionaries
without publicly withered hand out, do their hands trotter?
2. Will the servant of the Sunday information, he would only loyalty hand
cured? (At work suddenly doing the play and being the boss blame) why has not
seen He held out his hand to the Lord to heal. ?
"I ask you, on the Sabbath to do good evil, life-saving lethal, Which is
it? ... Jesus, so that the core of the issue is whether to do good and
important life-saving, or the observance of the Sabbath does not work
important. God joy in everyday life to do good and save lives, said human
righteousness and the fear of God in the Bible, such as Job in the Old
Testament. how the Jews of the goodness of God, the joy of people to pursue,
but on the Sabbath reversed regarded as incorrect, illegal it? black white
and white to black. "(From of UBF III of the worship information, 22/4,
Luke 6:1-19)
(3) the information of this passage is direct, means that Jesus work on the
Sabbath, while the Pharisee law conviction, as in UBF, brothers and sisters in
the absence of worship or gatherings because of work, while Pharisee-like
missionaries publicly convicted. This scripture is so direct and simple,
but why the information servants to be as rotation and complex, I do not know whether
he would like furtive want to insinuate the others?
Part II. I'm sorry, I'm not a spiritual parent, but a master cook
poisonous kimchi
"Through
the gospel, Paul became the spiritual father of the Corinthians." (UBF
days taken from the grain, 23/4, II Corinthians 12:11-21)
Corinth missionaries often say that they are spiritual parents, in fact, just a
master cook poisonous kimchi paternalistic manipulation and Persian mysticism
toxic kimchi, to poison the believers, but Well never refused to recognize and
face their own manipulation monopolizes
power and authoritarian core issue, but whenever encountered kimchi disaster,
exposing sins, it will issue to push in the Corinthian church and believers,
but not to confront and deal with the core of the problem, and then called the
Corinthians The church and believers to repent.
Part III. Hope you will not learn from me, kimchi magic!
"Many of
the problems the church at Corinth,
Paul's hope they repent before he came." (UBF days taken from the grain,
23/4, II Corinthians 12:11-21)
Corinth Missionary most good to spill out the push side, flash, avoid dumping
"kimchi magic, while the Corinthian elders to shirk its responsibility to
give them long Corinth missionaries so that they encounter problems will be
conditioned to the responsibility onto the individual person and the victim, or
all the property to a person's sin, thinking that as long as the repentance of
some sins, all problems will be solved, so simple-minded to analyze the
problem, will not only trapped in the vicious cycle of repeated, but also to
the Corinthian believers to bear the fruits of irresponsible, the irresponsible
practice passed down, for example: no matter what scandal occurs, they will
say: This is just an isolated incident, as long as repentance, all
problems will be resolved! They repeated and repeatedly say, a brain seems
to be cleaned; they have completed the Corinth University,
not even basic common sense, very poor!
"Paul ... did not the preacher after the leave, but left to love and serve
them." (UBF days taken from the grain, 23/4, II Corinthians 12:11-21)
Paul obviously will leave shortly after in the preacher will not last long stay
in a local manipulation of believers, however, Corinth missionaries to stay in
Corinth University, refused to leave, just want life to the paternalistic
manipulation Corinth believers, but the fine-sounding name, not the
preacher after the leave, but left to love and serve them, is really very
interesting! !
Corinth missionary's One Word:
Lord! I am willing to stretch out my hand of "avoiding
responsibilities". From now on, I will not say that I am the spiritual
parents to manipulate the people no longer use the scriptures to insinuate the
others, I beg you pardon me!
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Will UBF’s teaching violate HK’s law?
How UBF leaders assign “spouse”?
The HKU Shepherdess Armor borrowed money from her father to
attend 2008 Purdue SBC
Spiritual Abuse in HK UBF
Arranged Marriage/ Faith based marriage
A ture story: HKU missionary told lies and sweet words to persuade
a CUHK shepherd to marry a sister who came from the mainland China.
That sister was older than him about 5 years. The brother accepted by
faith. However, that missionary changed the marriage partner for him
suddenly......
History of leaders' leaving (including Director, shepherds,
whole fellowships, etc. during the past 10 years)
Evils of missionaries/ leaders
Relationship with Korea
Cults
HK UBF medical shepherds
offer two tenths income
Praise God, Ignore Division
(Ignore serious power struggle problems between former HKUBF Director,
HKU missionary, CUHK missionary/ Ignore spiritual abuse by Korean Director
Shep. D. Kim/ Ignore current net worth of UBF, etc.)
UBF Hidden Dogma
Definition of brainwash/ spiritual abuse
Leaving testimonies
Cult seminars
Discussion Forum
Introduction to UBF/ UBF Chronicles
Video
FAQ (Q1 - Q8)
Truth of "Abusive Church"
