2012年5月27日星期日

UBF 宣教士否定人自由自在地去旅行 (28 May 2012)


林XX牧者曾公開在約一百人的場合中(泡菜講座),聲稱自己在UBF裏能自由自在地去旅行,然而他能自由自在去旅行這一行為,卻在泡菜講座後的數星期,被UBF宣教士所主導的 II 部崇拜信息中公開被否定,被視為世俗宴樂的荊棘,內容如下: 

「宴樂的荊棘(pleasures),指著享受人生的內心。這世界有很多享樂,例如自由自在地去旅行這宴樂的荊棘是人基本的吃喝問題解決以後,有條件活得更好的時候進入人心裏的,引誘人思想如何享受人生,過多姿多采、悠閒的生活,自由自在,不用再勞碌奔波。撒但迷惑跟從耶穌一生而受苦的門徒,叫他們以為享受世界就得幸福。」 
(摘自20/5/2012II部主日崇拜信息,路8:1-21) 

雖然信息中並無指明是何人自由自在地去旅行,但這教導明顯有意圖去回應泡菜講座有關由自在地去旅行的言論。 

其實,那位想買樓牧者只是出於一片好心,想在泡菜講座上公開替UBF講好說話去支持宣教士和UBF,才見證自己可以自由自在地去旅行的行為,但他自由自在地去旅行的這行為,並未被UBF宣教士承認和接納為正常的活動,反而被進一步公開否定,被視為世界的享樂、宴樂的荊棘(pleasures)等。 

其實,林XX牧者他想買樓的主張已曾被宣教士公開地否定和反對,如今,他自由自在地去旅行的行為又再度被公開否定。 

問題: 
1. 試想想林XX牧者多番聽到自己認為是正常的行為和活動,例如:想買樓、自由自在地去旅行,卻被自己所支持的宣教士公開否定,內心會是何等矛盾呢?究竟他是否應該繼續支持多番否定他行為的宣教士呢? 


2.
林XX牧者如此支持和擁戴UBF和宣教士,但換來的卻是他所主張的行為被公開否定,他內心會是何等的受傷呢?會否有一種被出賣的感覺呢? 

3.
林XX牧者曾在約一百人面前公開分享自己能自由自在去旅行,但幾星期後,卻被宣教士所主導的信息中指出:自由自在去旅行原來是「世界的享樂」和「宴樂的荊棘」,給林XX牧者當頭棒喝。若宣教士真的愛自己的羔羊,在講信息前,宣教士為何沒有先考慮林XX牧者的感受呢? 

4. 究竟UBF是否真的准許牧者們自由自在地去旅行呢?而自由自在去旅行為何不被接受為正常活動,反而被指為「世界的享樂」和「宴樂的荊棘」呢? 


5. 根據以上信息,UBF裏跟從耶穌的門徒需要一生受苦和勞碌奔波,連自由自在去旅行的空間也不容許,其實UBF這類的生活教導有無問題呢?




2012年5月25日星期五

做信心祖宗要有肩膀,做宣教士要有腰骨麼? (26 May 2012)


[For English, see the bottom]


最近我收到以下內容的電郵並看過有關的短片,覺得很有啟發性,上了一課不錯的通識,希望能與大家分享: 

內容如下(修改了少許) 

做信心祖宗要有肩膀,做宣教士要有腰骨麼? 

UBF 裏有很多牧者都是教師,其中不乏通識科老師,不如大家一齊看看以下短片,上一堂通識: 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCXeTCUQWh8 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGitYYbLfSg&feature=related 

反思問題: 
1. 究竟牧者們(特別信心祖宗鄧牧者)有否混餚視聽呢? 

2. 在泡菜講座這件事上,宣教士/祖宗有沒有一力承擔後果呢? 

3. 祖宗有沒有肩膀?宣教士又有無腰骨呢? 

4. 集體混餚視聽的言論,究竟是誰一手造成呢? 

5. 泡菜講座後,為何內部出現"金生大地震"呢? 

6. 宣教士有否卸膊呢?牧者們又有否揹鑊呢? 

7. 宣教士有否利用牧者們作擋箭牌呢?

Source: http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?t=4894&start=105&mforum=liberalhk



As an ancestor of faith, dose he has “shoulder”? As missionaries, do they have “Pelvic Bone”? (26 May 2012)


 Recently, I received the following email and watched the video clips. I found them very enlightening which taught me a good lesson of “Liberal Studies”. I hope to share with you:
As follows (modified slightly):

As an ancestor of faith, dose he has “shoulder”? As missionaries, do they have “Pelvic Bone”?


There are many teacher shepherds in UBF. Some of them are Liberal Studies teacher. Let's take a look at the video below, and have a L.S. lesson.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCXeTCUQWh8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGitYYbLfSg&feature=related


Questions and Reflections
1. Did the shepherds (especially ancestor of faith shep. Tang) confuse the public

2. In the KimChi Seminar
did the missionaries and ancestor of faith undertake the consequence by themselves?
3. As an ancestor of faith, dose he has “shoulder”? As missionaries, do they have “Pelvic Bone”?
4. Who has  single-handedly caused the false and misleading speech?

5. Why was there a Kim family's earthquake after the KimChi seminar
6. Did the missionaries pass the buck? Did the shepherds need to take the rap?
7. Did the missionaries use the local shepherds to become their shields?

Source: http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?t=4894&start=105&mforum=liberalhk

2012年5月21日星期一

KimChi Talk’s False Speech by UBF shepherds (21 May 2012)


brother_2008 wrote:
” I am a former UBF brother who left UBF a few years ago. When I left, my feelings was almost the same as that of the previous shepherd’s leaving testimony a few months ago. The difference is that at that moment, I was like being isolated and failed to find the right person to share with.”



In fact, all exodus of former UBF – Hong Kong members would probably experience this sort of mental experience. From “suspecting” to “struggling”, from “being brainwashed” until “coming back to senses”, then he would experience some incidents to trigger him off. At last, he made decision to leave. Although this process will experience the painful feeling of discredited, isolation, or even be demoted. However, when he leaves UBF, he would have freedom in Christ and could drink the pure spiritual milk, so he will recover very soon and live a new life filling with freedom and joy.


It is said that the incident triggered one fellowship to leave UBF is in the Q&A session of the CUHK’s KimChi Talk. During the Q&A session, several UBF core shepherds were suspected of telling lies, untrue and misleading words publicly. Their behaviors caused some sheep to question about the integrity of the shepherds. They began to believe that UBF is an abusive church and made a decision to leave.


The following are several important cases in CUHK’s KimChi Talk on 11th April, 2012:


Case 1 (UBF-Hong Kong’s messenger Shep Tang XX claimed: I am just an ordinary shepherd, I hope that I could promote to a senior shepherd in the future)


During the Q&A session of CUHK’s KimChi Talk, one director class shepherd stood up. Dr. Cheung Teng asked him to introduce which shepherd’s class he belongs to. He kept on smiling and denied that he is a senior shepherd. He claimed that he is just an ordinary shepherd. And he even said that he hopes to promote to a senior shepherd in the future. However, what is the actual position and the real identity of this shepherd? The following content is quoted from UBF’s official web site:


“Shepherd Hayes Tang reported on Hong Kong Mission, and shared his life testimony. He became a born again Christian through one to one Bible study during his school days, and then he became an ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF …”
(source: http://www.ubf.org/content/america-visit-report-moody-park


According to UBF’s official web site, Hayes Tang is the ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF (also called “ancestor of faith – Abraham”). In UBF, every University has only one ancestor of faith. The statues of the ancestor of faith in UBF is very high and is highly-honored by missionaries. Shep. Hayes Tang is not only the ancestor of faith of one university, he is even the ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF which is a chapter combined by few universities. However, he claimed himself to be an ordinary shepherd. Obviously, he is suspected of telling lies publicly. Furthermore, he also said that he would like to promote to a senior shepherd. Does he think that being the ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF is not enough? Does he even have a greater ambition to pursue further promotion?


Summary of case 1:  As the ancestor of faith of Hong Kong UBF, he was actually giving false speech, leading to the questioning about his integrity. As a faith ancestor and messenger of UBF, he did not set a good example of speaking honestly. Will he bring bad influence of releasing false speech publicly to UBF’s shepherds, brothers and sisters?


Case 2 (Shep. “Wanna Buy House”, sheep of Shep. Tang XX, claimed,  “I have freedom to travel and my life in UBF-Hong Kong is very free. If being Shepherds are so busy, I think I have already left UBF.”

(Remarks: Shepherd “Wanna Buy House” once wanted to buy a house but his ideas was rejected and judged by missionary.)


During the KimChi Talk, Shep. “Wanna Buy House” claimed that his life was very free in UBF. He could even go traveling and buy T-shirt, etc. However, his statement was misleading. Since according to the message of Shep. TangXX, “Traveling” is worldly (or an example of the easy-going life). Let’s see below the UBF-HK’s faith ancestor TangXX’s teaching (Message of Chapter III in UBF-HK). In his message, he pointed out “traveling” is a “wide gate”, that leads to destruction:


"But for the wide doors, it is no need to invite others or to send invitation card. Everyday there are people forming teams to enter. They might form teams like “Tour group”, “Food group”, “Shopping group”… to rush into the wide gate. Therefore, although behind the wide gate are “Comfort Station”, “Pleasure Station”, “Vanity station”, ”Crime Station”, but …the terminus is “Perish”…So what is the actual difference between “narrow gate” and “wide gate”? “Wide gate” means “having a free (easy-going) life”. People do not need hard-working or struggling spiritually but they can still enter the wide gate. Behind the wide gate, people can enjoy comfort and lust. Therefore, choosing “wide gate” is a natural practice. On the way of wide road, people can meet many friends and they would not feel lonely.” (source: message of Chapter III, 21/9/2008, Mat 7:13-29)



Indeed, Shep. “Wanna Buy House” shared sogam in the message of 2011 HK SBC. He mentioned that his coworker cannot pass the “language benchmark test” for three years, so she was requested to repent.


“…but I work with computer everyday, so I don’t know how to love the others. Last year, my coworker (wife) could neither find any sheep nor any job. She also failed to pass the “language benchmark test” in the past three years. She was not only discouraged, but also looked down by others. Those who did not understand her, just asked her to repent, but did not realize that she was one who also need to be shepherding. I felt her frustration. I encouraged her that God can easily give you a job.” (14/8/2011, message of HK SBC, John 21:1-17)


Summary of case 2:  From the above message and sogam, we can see that shep.Tang XX’s sheep, “Shep. Wanna Buy House”, cannot live freely in the real world as he said. His wife was requested to repent and lacked of being shepherded. If he follows the teaching of TangXX, it is impossible for him to travel. Therefore, his speech was misleading or untrue. It is presumptuous for him to speak such misleading or untrue speech. Is it inherited from TangXX?



Case 3  (A CUHK Shepherdess, Shep. G, claimed, “I was not arranged marriage in UBF”)


During KimChi Talk, Dr Cheung Teng asked if UBF will arrange marriage and asked the UBF shepherds whether they were arranged marriage in UBF or not, and asked them to answer one by one. At that time, all shepherds kept silent, including the faith ancestor shep. TangXX. Nobody answered. However, Shep. G stood up suddenly and took herself as an example. She told that she had a boyfriend before, and later they got married in UBF, instead of being  “arranged marriage”. Although she was telling something true, she hided the fact that 90% of the shepherds are arranged married in UBF – Hong Kong. Her marriage is just a rare example in UBF. Although she did not tell lie, such speech is misleading people to think that brothers and sister have freedom to date with someone and choose to marry in UBF-Hong Kong.


Summary of case 3: Shepherdess G took herself as an example, so that people think that not all shepherds are arranged to marry in UBF. However, she did not honestly point out the fact that 90% of the marriages of shepherds are “arranged marriages”. This practice was misleading, confusing the public and resulted of losing her integrity.


The aftermath of KimChi Talk

Recently, a former UBF member shared with me honestly the follows:


Since his shepherd often told him that the speech on web are false, it is difficult for him to distinguish whether they are true or false, as a result, he hesitated and stayed in UBF for a period. However, “KimChi Talk” helped trigger his decision to leave UBF because he personally saw that UBF shepherds was lying, hiding the facts, misleading and confusing the public. The missionaries (as leaders) were hiding behind in the Q&A session of KimChi Talk. These triggered him to question the integrity of the UBF missionaries and shepherds. Finally, he realized that the speech on web is mostly with evident to support. He had reflections after “KimChi Talk” and he finally made decision to leave UBF-Hong Kong. He left UBF because he heard the voice of UBF shepherds (especially those with ancestor class), and that helped trigger his decision to leave UBF.


I believe those shepherds, including Shep. Tang XX, Shep. G and Shep. “Wanna buy house”, are victims indeed. They are kind-hearted. They thought that they could stand out as the shields for the missionaries which caused this exposure of their speech suspected of lying and misleading.


I hope those missionaries, as leaders, do not use the poor local shepherds to become their shields. So that they could be leaders who walk in front of the sheep bravely to face and address the issue of UBF’s manipulation, dictatorship and lies, etc.


You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.” (John 8:44) This key verse is often used by UBF shepherds for teaching the sheep. Hope that each time when they teach the sheep this key verse, they could also reflect on it.

  

2012年5月16日星期三

泡菜講座中的失實言論 (17 May 2012)



發表發表於: 05-16-2012 22:36    文章主題: 泡菜講座中的失實言論
引言回覆


泡菜講座中的失實言論 
brother_2008 寫到:
自己是數年前離開UBF的弟兄,離開時的感受與某牧者在多月前的離開見證幾乎完全一樣。只是那刻像被孤立,未有找到合適對象能一同分享。


其實所有離開者都必定會經歷這些心路歷程,從起初懷疑到爭扎,從被洗腦到醒悟過來,再經歷一些導火線而決志離開,雖然過程中會因不斷被抹黑、孤立、甚至被降職而痛苦,但離開UBF之後,因著擁有基督裏的自由,和可以喝到純正的靈奶,很快便恢復過來,過著自由喜樂的新生活。

據聞今次觸發那團契成員離開的導火線,是由於泡菜講座裏 Q&A 的環節中,幾位UBF核心牧者的言論有說謊、失實和誤導之嫌,令那團契的羔羊質疑牧者們的誠信,及覺得UBF是一所有問題的教會,而最終決定離開。

以下列出泡菜講座中的幾個重要個案:


個案一(UBF信息僕人鄧XX牧者聲稱:我是一般牧者,希望將來有機會可以升做高級牧者)  


在泡菜講座Q&A 的尾段時,一位UBF董事級牧者,站起來「笑口噬噬」地否認自己是高級牧者,只是個「一般牧者」,甚至說自己也希望一天有機會可以升做「高級牧者」,然而,這位牧者在教會中的位置及真正身份究竟是甚麼呢?以下是摘自UBF官方網站的內容:

“Shepherd Hayes Tang reported on Hong Kong Mission,and shared his life testimony. He became a born again Christian through one to one Bible study during his school days, and then he became an ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF …”
(source: http://www.ubf.org/content/america-visit-report-moody-park)

根據UBF的官方網站,這位牧者是香港UBF的「信心祖宗」(又稱為信心祖宗亞伯拉罕),在UBF裏每所大學都只有一位信心祖宗,而信心祖宗的地位崇高,是僅次於宣教士的,而Hayes Tang牧者不單止是一所大學的祖宗,更是Hong Kong UBF的信心祖宗,但他卻稱自己為一般牧者,這明顯有公開說謊之嫌,而且,他還想升做高級牧者,莫非他覺得自己只是Hong Kong UBF的信心祖宗還不夠麼?還想升職麼?

小結: 身為Hong Kong UBF的信心祖宗,竟然公開地說失實的言論,令人質疑其誠信,他身為信息僕人,沒有以身作則地說誠實話,會否將隨便公開講失實言論的壞影響力帶給Hong Kong UBF的牧者和弟兄姊妹呢?



個案二(鄧XX的羔羊「想買樓牧者」聲稱:我可以自由自在地去旅行,如果牧者的聚會是如此密集,我就會離開UBF了) 

「想買樓牧者」在講座中站出來說自己在UBF裏十分自由,還可以去旅行、買T-shirt等。他的言論有誤導之嫌,因為按UBF的教導去旅行是世俗的,以下是他的牧者UBF - Hong Kong「信心祖宗」所領導的三部崇拜的主日信息,指出去旅行是進闊門,而最終是要滅亡:

「但對於闊門,不需要邀請人或邀請卡,也每天有人,甚至組隊地進入;好像旅行團、美食團、優惠搶購團,紛紛地進入闊門所以雖然闊門之後有舒服站、享樂站、虛榮站、犯罪站,但總站是滅亡那麼,闊門和窄門實際上指著甚麼呢? 闊門指著自由自在的生活:人不需要努力, 不需要屬靈掙扎都可以進入闊門。闊門後有安逸和情慾可以享受。選擇闊門是自然不過的事,在那寬敞的路上人可以遇見不同的朋友, 一點也不孤單。」 (摘自2008921(部信息), 馬太福音 7:13-29)

事實上,「想買樓牧者」也曾分享過自己同工因三次考不到基準試,而被人叫她悔改的所感:

……可是我每天對著電腦多過對人,我不懂得去愛人。同工(即他的妻子)遇上過去一年,都找不到羔羊、找不到工作、考了三年也不能通過語文基準,灰心之餘更被人看少。唔明白她的人,只會叫她悔改,卻不知她也需要牧養。我感受到她的無奈,鼓勵她話 神要賜下一份工作給妳,是好容易的事情…… (14/8/2011夏令營信息,約21:1-17)

從以上信息和所感可見,鄧XX的羔羊「想買樓牧者」並非如他所說的可以在現實世界裏,自由自在地生活,若他真的遵從鄧XX的教導,他也不可能去旅行。因此,他的言論有誤導或失實之嫌。他斗膽公開地說誤導或失實的言論,會否從鄧XX身上承襲下來呢?



個案三(中大非配婚G牧者:我不是配婚的) 
泡菜講座中,滕師母詢問UBF牧者UBF是否有配婚安排,並請他們逐一說出自己是否被配婚。

這時候,所有被配婚的牧者(包括鄧XX)也沉默下來,不作回應,然而,那時一位G姊妹牧者站出來,說自己是跟男朋友拍拖,後來在UBF裏結婚的,並不是配婚的。雖然這姊妹牧者說的不錯,但事實上,香港UBF裏有九成UBF牧者也是被配婚的,而她只是UBF裏罕有的例子。雖然她並沒有說謊,但這樣的言論卻同樣有誤導成份,令人誤以為UBF容許信徒自由拍拖和結婚。

小結:這位非配婚G牧者,舉自己作為例子,使人覺得UBF裏並非所有牧者都是被配婚的,但她卻沒有指出九成UBF牧者也是被配婚的事實真相,以如此手法隱惡揚善、誤導信徒,實在有失誠信。



泡菜講座的餘波 
最近,一位離開UBF的人坦誠告訴我,由於早前他的牧者經常告訴他「網上的言論是假的」,令他難以分辨真偽,而留在UBF猶豫了多時,但最終觸發他離開UBF的原因,就是因為他在泡菜講座中,親眼看見UBF的牧者在公開場合公然說謊、隱瞞事實、誤導信徒及作為領袖的宣教士在Q&A時躲在後面等真相,令他開始懷疑UBF的宣教士和牧者的誠信,並發現網上許多言論都是事實。經過這次泡菜講座後的反思,他最終決定離開UBF了。這位前UBF成員的離開,完全是因為聽了UBF牧者們(特別是祖宗級的)的聲音,而觸發他決志離開UBF

我相信以上的牧者鄧XX牧者、G牧者、想買樓牧者其實都是受害者,他們一片好心,以為自己可以站出來作宣教士的擋箭牌,才導致被人揭發他們言論有說謊及失實之嫌,希望作為領袖的宣教士不好再利用可憐的本地牧者作他們的擋箭牌,可以勇敢地作「行在前頭」的領袖,面對及正視UBF的操控、獨裁、說謊等嚴重問題。

「你們是出於你們的父魔鬼,你們父的私慾,你們偏要行,他從起初是殺人的,不守真理.因他心裡沒有真理,他說謊是出於自己,因他本來是說謊的,也是說謊之人的父。」(約8:44)這是UBF牧者經常教訓羔羊時用的金句,希望每次當他們教訓羔羊這金句之前,也反思一下吧!

2012年5月13日星期日

Prayer for Hong Kong UBF (13 May 2012)


Posted on 05/12/20125:53 pm, by briank 

Today I received the following email from a former Hong Kong UBF member. With her permission, I share the unedited email. Please pray for our brothers and sisters in Hong Kong UBF who are experiencing painful division. The main reason is the same as in other UBF chapters: a constant demand by leaders for sheep to submit to their authority, in the name of “keeping spiritual order” and honoring the UBF spiritual heritage above human relationships. As I wrote earlier in November 2011, this problem has been ongoing in Hong Kong UBF.


1 Corinthians 12:26-27 “26 If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.  27 Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.”


On 12.05.2012 00:37, Exodus Ubf wrote:

Dear Brain,
Thank you for your support and encouragement on your blog. I am glad to be your friend too.

We just heard a news that one house church (Shep Paul Liu & Shep Rebekah) and their fellowship members have all left HK UBF last week. Rebekah is the greatest disciple of Msn Angela Kim (other than Shep Maria and her coworker Shep Hayes Tang) and Her fellowship once was the biggest family (around 10-20 members) in HKUBF. Actually Shep. Paul Liu once was the ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF and he is one of the messengers of SWS (Chapter II) in HKUBF. However, Msn Angela Kim suddenly raised up Shep Hayes Tang as the Abraham of Faith to replace his position. Here is his testimony:

“Shepherd Hayes Tang reported on Hong Kong Mission,and shared his life testimony. He became a born again Christian through one to one Bible study during his school days, and then he became an ancestor of faith in Hong Kong UBF …”

Last week, Shep Rebekah leave UBF together with her fellowship members. We don’t know the details for the cause of their leaving, exactly numbers of exodus and their future plans. However, one brother told us that she might be blamed by Msn Angela Kim. Actually, we know that Shep Rebekah has long been discredited by Msn Angela Kim because she had her own thinking, did not listen to her words and obey her absolutely.

Indeed, it is because Shep Rebekah loves the sheep so much, and she doesn’t want to use the UBF method of dictatorship and manipulation to serve God’s sheep.

We tell her that some pastors who are familiar with the operation of UBF are very willing to have Bible study or counselling supports to them if they need. And we will remember them in our prayer.

Thank you for your continuous concern about UBF – Hong Kong. May God bless you and you family.

In Christ,
HK Exodus




2012年5月10日星期四

睇d野宣教士點解不叫佢同工去”執執個look”,而只叫弟兄姊妹呢? (11 May 2012)

English: http://hkubf.blogspot.com/2011/11/english-21-nov-2011.html
(Why don’t “Watching something missionary” request his/her coworker to do make-up, rather than requesting the bros. & sis.?  (11 May 2012)  )


本人記得睇d野宣教士曾多次講過:如果姊妹愛主的話,她的臉就會發光,而無需用SK-II 一類的化妝品,那麼,睇d野宣教士是否暗示班姊妹不愛主而需要去化妝呢?如果係咁,鐵甲和魔鬼天使去化妝,係咪表示佢地不愛主、臉不發光呢? 

d野宣教士的同工經常帶著黑臉於GBS中責備人、猛開機關槍,點解佢又唔叫同工去執執個look”、等佢發光、唔好成日亂開機關槍呢? 

其實,為何睇d野宣教士不給佢同工壓力去服事二十對羔羊,而要給壓力弟兄姊妹呢?本人曾經聽過睇d野宣教士曾一段長時間無乜羔羊服事,只服事一個羔羊,還要是別人帶來給佢服事的,因此佢就攞另一宣教士和牧者的羊(強迫別人交出羔羊),佢而家有的羊,好多都係攞人的,例如:禿頭以利沙、信心有根王子等等。有次魔鬼天使講晒睇d野宣教士點樣趁佢病羅佢羊,真係講到好慘,呢d都係魔鬼天使在睇d野宣教士既背後講既,連睇d野宣教士本身都唔知自己被佢抹黑緊。 

好心睇d野宣教士自己無羊就去按自己的教導去執下個LOOK,好過攞人d羊,不過,魔鬼天使又成日係人背後講人壞話,實在唔應該!



2012年5月8日星期二

"睇d野"宣教士莫視弟兄姊妹的健康,吩咐弟兄姊妹要效法鐵甲 (9 May 2012)

English:  http://hkubf.blogspot.com/2011/11/english-21-nov-2011.html
("Watching something” missionary ignored the health of bros. & sis., and commanded bros. and sis. to follow the example of "armor" (10 May 2012)


發表於: 05-08-2012 9:10    文章主題: Re: 論基督徒的自由
引言回覆


ffgh 寫到:
今日看到馬丁路德的一篇講章。雖然裡面說的是修道士的生活,但是放在這組織內亦很貼切。我領受的兩點是: 
1.
每個人都是順服於神,從神領受呼召,不能由別人強迫。 
2.
不能因為有人做得到,別人就一定要跟著做。因為每個人都是不同。 
然而,這組織有很多強迫服侍的事。從講章可見,這組織不能使人過基督徒的生活。 


謝謝你的分享!這組織確有這問題:強迫人服侍或在群眾壓力(人的目光)下而不得不服侍。其實這問題是從身為領袖的宣教士開始的,以下就是一個例子,是多年前舉行聖經學校前的禱告會中發生的:

當時"睇d野"宣教士於報告時,竟然說:全體牧者要向阿鐵甲牧者學習,因為佢(當時)每星期服事超過二十對查經,又說這消息震驚韓國弟兄姊妹,由於她竭力服事以至沒有時間吃東西,然後這宣教士就向全體弟兄姊妹說:聖經學校要像天國筵席,不要黑口黑臉來參加聚會,如果有姊妹黑口黑臉的話,可以化妝來令臉發光,如果你不懂化妝,就向鐵甲牧者請教,鐵甲牧者臉上時常發光,因佢會用化妝。

由此可見,宣教士常用"高舉某人來給予其他人壓力"這手段,這些事情屢見不鮮。就如以上例子:宣教士藉著高舉鐵甲牧者,來勵牧者們,令到無乜羔羊的牧者十分悲慘、在人的眼光中受藐視或無地位;當然,牧者們又會把這個壓力傳遞下去,令羔羊最終感到群眾壓力而不得不按牧者的意思去作。

Q1.
 不吃飯去服侍,完全忽視自己的身體健康,即使是幼稚園學的常識也會教導學生注意身康健康,要均衡飲食,但UBF的宣教士竟然完全忽視,難道韓國幼稚園沒有教?

Q2.
假如那些姊妹聽完宣教士的說話後,學鐵甲牧者不吃飯去服侍而途中暈倒,要自費看醫生,帶來金錢、身體和時間的損失,是誰要負的責任呢?是佢的責任麼?

Q3.
宣教士又不是神,佢怎知道鐵甲牧者竭力服侍的動機呢? 或許佢是因爭競嫉妒,或追求人的榮耀呢?(註:曾經一段時間,鐵甲牧者為到與兩位高級姊妹牧者(不過其中一位後來出國了,而一位仍在)爭競的罪惡,而公開分享悔改的所感,宣教士又怎能排除佢是因爭競嫉妒或人的榮耀,而竭力服侍的可能呢?而且出於這些動機的服侍也不能榮耀神。)

介紹你看以下網站,可讓你更了解全球UBF的實際操作:

http://www.priestlynation.com/

該網資料十分豐富,從不同角度解構這組織!




2012年5月7日星期一

UBF的所謂「屬靈遺產」究竟是甚麼?用途是甚麼?(8 May 2012)



溫馨提示:若有讀者從未聽過何為UBF的屬靈遺產,可先到以下網站閱讀有關文章: 

(翻譯及修改自http://www.priestlynation.com/archives/991#comment-1281 

Brian您好,感謝您的文章。在香港UBF,我們有的版本是八點UBF屬靈遺產的那一版本,而每個信心家庭也有一幅印有Samuel Lee的肖像及八點屬靈遺產,並掛在每個信心家庭的家中,屬靈遺產八點如下: 


1. 歸向聖經 (Go Back to the Bible) 
2. 通過平信徒宣教士遵行世界宣教使命 (World mission through lay missionaries) 
3. 通過1:1查經成就校園福音化 Campus evangelism through one-to-one Bible study 

4. 通過家庭教會持守馬糟事工 (Manger ministry through house churches) 
5. 興起門徒事工 (Disciple-making ministry) 
6. 天糧與所感撰寫 (Daily bread and testinony writing) 
7. “五餅二魚的施與精神 (Giving spirit-“five loaves and two fish”) 
8. 為了成為祭司的國度和聖潔的國民而禱告 (Pray to be a kingdom of priests and a holy nation) 

其實,UBF自創了很多所謂「屬靈術語」(當然,他們會說這些都是聖經的教導)。按我們的經驗,UBF的屬靈遺產只是一些所謂的「屬靈術語」。而實際上,這些屬靈遺產,只是創辦人的「古人的遺傳」。而且,我認為與他們出版的「50週年」一書中出現的以下句子,出現一些矛盾: 

「然而,過去50年在UBF裏的聖靈工作,並非出於Dr Samuel LeeMother Barry的想法。」 

事實上,這些屬靈遺產(或屬靈術語)只是口號,例如,以往韓國Director常常強調「香港成為中國十三億同胞的宣教基地(Power Station)」,甚至聲稱要差派一百萬宣教士到中國大陸。然而,你可以猜猜從HKUBF差遺了多少位中國內地的宣教士呢?答案是:在過去的26年裡,根本一個也沒有。 

UBF中有很多「屬靈術語」。他們常用自己的語言,令你彷如一個大學新生正在上某語言的課堂。大約有100或更多的屬靈術語,是UBF的領袖經常強調的。這些所謂屬靈術語,從來都很少在文字上被記錄下來及被定義。然而,UBF重新定義這些術語和在任何時間按他們的需要而運用,而且有時,不同的領袖會就這些術語有不同的解釋。我擔保你會在UBF的所謂屬靈術語中,找到很多甚麼「精神」和 甚麼「XXX主義」(如人本主義,享樂主義等)而發笑。 

那麼,這些所謂的「屬靈術語」的用途究竟是甚麼呢?根據Steven Hassan,異端或類似異端組織會常用術語(loaded language),特點是「終止思想的陳詞濫調」,來進行思想控制。這些「特殊」的字眼用作收窄人的理解,而不是擴展理解。(來源:http://www.freedomofmind.com/Info/BITE/bitemodel.php),他們喜歡用自己的語言和術語,並如有需要便引用它們(來控制別人)。 

我認為, UBF領袖應上的第一課,就是應學習首先放棄使用這些術語及放棄控制弟兄姐妹,但他們會否願意承認自己實在控制別人及採用術語呢?由於他們必須持守創辦人的「古人的遺傳」,因此這解釋了為何UBF實在很難去改變,及為何他們在過去50年裏改革了許多許多次,但最終也是「換湯不換藥」。

2012年5月4日星期五

哥林多稅務局向哥林多信徒派「綠色炸彈」 (5 May 2012)


「以色列人奉命要供給祭司定期奉獻的份……」(摘自UBF天糧,利7:22-384/5/2012 

今天我打開報章看新聞,才得知哥林多稅務局又準備向哥林多信徒派「綠色炸彈」,其實哥林多教會庫房已經水浸,單在08-09年,已有一百萬盈餘,哥林多宣教士又在哥林多長老毫不知情下,借了一筆巨款,還不知有否歸還!如今哥林多稅務局還準備向哥林多信徒派「綠色炸彈」,哥林多信徒其實只為幾斗米而折腰,如今還收到「綠色炸彈」添,真是無淡好食啊! 

不過,收「綠色炸彈」總算比收「紅色炸彈」好,若果收到「紅色炸彈」,隨時要在一個月之內,與矮過自己的哥林多弟兄結婚,或是與年紀比自己大幾年的哥林多姊妹結婚,還要向泡菜局長交成個月人工的「結婚靚仔靚女稅」,及請全部哥林多弟兄姊妹吃自助餐,到時真是「成個老襯,從此被困」。 

不過,幸好哥林多教會有鐵甲排骨,因為鐵甲排骨即使無淡好食也十分好戰,因此,只要哥林多宣教士繼續高舉鐵甲排骨,向其他無淡好食的哥林多信徒話:「你們來看,鐵甲排骨無淡好食都出去勤力打獵,仲打到十二隻綿羊,你們要乖乖向佢多多學習啊!」那時,哥林多信徒只好個個 O嘴」了! 

其實今次哥林多教會再次引用哥林多經文第二十三條,來教導哥林多信徒要供給祭司定期奉獻的份,已經不是新鮮的事,實在是見慣不怪了,因為哥林多教會最擅長的就是引用哥林多經文,無論哥林多信徒有甚麼意見,哥林多教會總會快速地找到合適的哥林多經文,然後努力把每個人物角色套進去,進行大洗腦活動。

2012年5月3日星期四

UBF天糧又一驚典「講一套、做一套」的例子 (4 May 2012)

English: http://hkubf.blogspot.com/2011/11/english-21-nov-2011.html
(One more excellent example of UBF "say one thing and do another" practice (4 May 2012)

「以色列與 神的特別關係是一個難以想像的特權。祂的子民被給予極大的自由。他們不用過著作君奴隸的生活。」 
「通過設立界限,神保護他何免受屬靈上和身體上的危害。」 
(摘自 UBF 天糧,利7:22-384/5/2012 

1. UBF
信徒其實不想自費參加國際靈修營,卻因鐵甲牧者即使無錢也問阿爸借錢參加,而令 UBF 信徒受極大壓力,不得不節衣縮食也要自費參加; 
2. UBF
信徒被人要求服事多多、由朝做到晚,又要向宣教士報告服侍情況及人數,經常害怕團契人數比人小、做得不夠好或是要被 UBF 宣教士利用信息、天糧來影射及批評,時常被恐懼捆綁; 
3. UBF
信徒要順從配婚給年紀比自己少幾年的弟兄、身材比自己矯小的弟兄、同性戀者或性格剛烈如戰士的姊妹,並須在一個月內成婚。 
4. UBF
「想買樓牧者」想買樓又不能夠買樓; 
5. UBF
「考基準牧者」多次考不到基準時,沒有得到牧養,還要被人叫佢悔改; 
6. UBF
「信心有根牧者」為了絕對出席主日崇拜,而不能考星期日的基準試,要等一年才可以再考; 
7. UBF
「頂罪姊妹」的兒子即使發高燒,也被牧者強迫絕對出席查經聚會,事後還稱這種行為是屬靈母親教導屬靈兒女; 
8. UBF
信徒若不聽 UBF 宣教士的說話,隨時被安排與 UBF 難頂的高級牧者查經; 
9.
UBF 羔羊成長到一段時間, UBF 宣教士便會走過來,說某某羔羊以後跟佢查經(其實則係要果子-你的羊) 
10. UBF
宣教士唔洗洗廁所,你就要吸塵、拖地、洗廁所; 
11. UBF
宣教士有人工,你就連洗廁所既廿八蚊都羅唔到; 
12. UBF
宣教士有權話你、批評你、甚至公開指責你,但你不滿時就連一粒聲都無得出,因你出聲隨時被人抹黑、被人為你信心軟弱禱告; 
13. UBF
宣教士唔需要處理教會嚴重的核心問題(操控、獨裁、財政…),你若因這些問題不滿, UBF 宣教士就會說這些是埋怨、是罪,而你就要寫所感去悔改這不感謝的罪惡。 


Q1: 究竟 UBF 信徒的生活,是否如天糧所說可享受那極大的自由,還是活在作君奴隸的生活呢?
Q2: UBF
宣教士向 UBF 信徒定的界線,為何明顯沒按聖經教導,嚴重地踩過界呢?